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Lightbulb The Revelation of 666 from Moses and Ezra
Posted by: aux - 12-05-2017, 09:20 AM - Forum: General - Replies (19)

Good to be back. Where is everyone!

I wanted to share something I've pieced together over the years and recently compressed into a post. It's about the nature of the "mark of the beast" and 666, etc. Some may have already realized it themselves,for all the commentary commentary and discussion on this subject over the last 1900+ years, I've never seen anyone explain it this way before, and the mountains of disinfo and counter-intelligence low-life trolls posing as helpful buddies on messageboards on the #WWWiretap is horrendous.

There's no Aramaic involved in the discussion unfortunately since the earliest copy of Revelation is in Greek (AFAIK) and I didn't consult the Aramaic translation of the Greek that we have (not yet anyways), but I was hoping someone here might have insight from the Eastern perspective on this, I'd love to hear it. I do find it kinda funny that folk in NT scholarship say that the author John's first language was Aramaic based on the poor Greek writing as Bart Ehrman does on his blog here.

Here are my thoughts:

Quote:It appears John is referring to nothing more than a census or numbering of heads in regards to 666. Moses conducted one in the book of NUMBERS and so did the high priest Ezra in the return from Babylon — John uses nearly identical language from both cases when he refers to the “number of his name” and the “number of a man.” It’s as if John was trying to make the text foolproof so the reader did not misunderstand what he was talking about rather than concealing the meaning, but we will not understand if we do not listen to the Word, listen to Wisdom. Here is Wisdom:

Take ye the sum [רֹאשׁ lit. head] of all the congregation of the children [sons] of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, [LXX: ἀριθμὸν ἐξ ὀνόματος αὐτῶν] every male by their poll [ גֻלְגְּלֹתָֽם lit. skulls] (Numbers 1.2 KJV, my notes in brackets)

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name [ἀριθμὸν τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ]. (Rev 13.17 KJV, my notes in brackets)

Here are the key phrases side by side in Greek:
ἀριθμὸν ἐξ ὀνόματος αὐτῶν –Num 1.2 (LXX)
ἀριθμὸν τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ –Rev 13.17 (Nestle-Aland 27h Ed)

Here is how Ezra records the census in his day, first verse included for context:

Now these are the children [sons] of the province that went up out of the captivity, of those which had been carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried away unto Babylon, and came again unto Jerusalem and Judah, every one unto his city; Which came with Zerubbabel: Jeshua, Nehemiah, Seraiah, Reelaiah, Mordecai, Bilshan, Mispar, Bigvai, Rehum, Baanah. The number of the men [LXX: ἀνδρῶν ἀριθμὸς] of the people of Israel (Ezra 2.1-2 KJV, my notes)

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man [ἀριθμὸς γὰρ ἀνθρώπου]; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev 13.18 KJV, my notes)

Side by side use of language referring to numbering sons of men:
ἀνδρῶν ἀριθμὸς –Ezra 2.2 (LXX)
ἀριθμὸς γὰρ ἀνθρώπου –Rev 13.18 (Nestle-Aland 27h Ed)

Another link between the census here in Revelation 13.18 and Ezra’s census is the infamous number 666 itself:

The children [sons] of Adonikam [אֲדֹ֣נִיקָ֔ם lit. “my lord has arisen”], six hundred sixty and six. (Ezr 2.13 KJV)

Inclusively, we come to 667 and perhaps homiletically we could say that the so-called perfect man symbolized by triple sixes is not the case:

The children [sons] of Adonikam, six hundred threescore and seven. (Neh 7.18 KJV)

Not only does John use similar language used in the old testament for numbering the sons of Israel, but the very next verse following Rev 13.18 refers to the number of the sons of the 12 tribes of Israel sealed with the name of God who were numbered in a census in Revelation 7.4-8. This gives us the same language combined with the same context of the language pointing to a census [twice]. All the tribes are represented among the 144,000 except for the tribe of Dan, this may tell us what tribe the 666 are from, in which case all the tribes are now represented.

That the tribe of Dan is separated from the 12 tribes is also found in the old testament when Dan is left out of the genealogies of the 12 tribes in 1Chronicles 4-7, apparently forsaking their inheritance when they moved out of their allotment. An argument of Dan being absent from Balaam’s parable-prophecy in Numbers 24 could also be made.

Irenaeus accepts that the Antichrist is from the tribe of Dan without reservation quoting from Jeremiah, however he would also need to be related to the House of David, or at the very least claim to be, in order to satisfy biblical prophecies and the expectations of rabbis, and Dan was known to mix with other tribes and nations early on.

The number 666 may be a literal number of sons, as seen in Ezra 2.13, like the 144,000 and could also have symbolic meaning — the two don’t need to be mutually exclusive. These numbers are only focused on the tribes of Israel, not Gentiles.

The mark and name are the same thing, ESV’s rendering brings this out best, and we see the antithesis to the antichrist’s name/mark in Rev 14.1. The case could be made further in studying more passages in the old testament but that would be beyond the scope of this post. BUT, the number of the name refers to sons of a family name.

So we have two different components to the prophecy here: the (renewed Sinai) covenant and the people of the covenant — The antichrist has his marriage covenant with the harlot and Christ has his marriage covenant with the virgin bride. The woman takes the name of the husband in marriage and it is non-physical (ie, not a microchip!).

The name or mark is spiritual, however many Jews wear phylacteries or tephillin on their forehead (thoughts) and hand/arm (works) with the Name (שׁדי Shaddai) and the Sinai covenant marriage text as an outward fulfillment of the text itself (cf Mat 23.5). You cannot buy or sell the offerings and sacrifices with the merchants and money changers in the outer court of the temple unless you accept the covenant marriage and receive the name.

Well I tried to keep it short but it's hard to know where to stop. I did a video touching on this [last year] and how transgenderism/transhumanism fits in with AI and more in my video, Robot Sex and the Holy of Holies which I'm open to constructive criticism on if you have time to look at it -- I still say it's the most important video on youtube but I may be biased.

It goes deeper at openthematrix.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Blessings in the name of Yeshua who crushes the ggg/666.

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  australian split/controversy in 80's?
Posted by: onebiblestudent - 11-09-2017, 09:06 PM - Forum: Church of the East Forum - No Replies

Hello, just out of curiosity, can someone explain to an outsider what the split in the CoE in australia in the 80's was about and how its viewed in your church community?  Tried looking it up but not much info I could find, just wikipedia says that they split into Ancient CoE and Assyrian CoE, and a video on YT, nothing really says why though.  If there is a thread here about it already I couldn't find it.  Thanks.

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  Complete Peshitta Bible Interlinear published
Posted by: gbausc - 11-04-2017, 12:07 PM - Forum: General - No Replies

I just published the whole Peshitta Bible in interlinear form as an ebook download for your computer or cell phone for $29.95.
This is the first and only complete interlinear translation of the ancient 1st century Peshitta Bible and takes up 2765 pages.
The Peshitta New Testament included is the divine original. I document this in 210 pages of notes. The Peshitta Old Testament is a 2000 year old translation of an unedited Hebrew Bible of the 1st century, which the corrupt scribes of Jesus' day had not defiled with their many alterations, which went as far as to remove the sacred name of God (YHWH) in 134 places! They also went on to make many other Anti-Christ alterations to produce an Anti Christ Bible. The Peshitta OT is a translation from Hebrew to its sister language Aramaic, but it retains many original readings which have been removed from the current Massoretic Hebrew edition used for most translations of the Bible.

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  Complete Old Testament Interlinear published!
Posted by: gbausc - 10-14-2017, 09:05 PM - Forum: General - Replies (4)

I am very pleased to announce the publication of the complete Aramaic English Interlinear Peshitta Old Testament. It is available through Lulu Publishing as a downloadable pdf ebook:

This is a literal word for word interlinear translation of the 1900+ year old Aramaic Old Testament called the Peshitta. This volume contains the entire OT- the 39 books of the Hebrew Bible and the Protestant Old Testament canon. Aramaic was the native language of Jesus and of Israel in the 1st century AD. The text translated is the 6th-7th century Codex Ambrosianus- the oldest complete Semitic Old Testament. The Peshitta Old Testament was very likely translated from the Hebrew Bible in the 1st century AD in Israel by Christian coverts from Judaism, or possibly Syrian Christians from across Israel's border. Either way, the Peshitta Old and New Testaments together constitute the first Christian Bible. The author has translated and published an interlinear of the entire Aramaic Peshitta New Testament and plain English translations of the NT, the Torah, the Psalms & Proverbs. PDF EBook 8x11" format 1956 pages in color.

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  SedraJs conversion scripts
Posted by: borota - 10-07-2017, 03:35 AM - Forum: General - Replies (3)

A milestone reached: NodeJs scripts to convert Sedra 3 text file database to a JavaScript representation that could be used to process the database directly from inside the browser, or on the server with NodeJs, etc.
See https://github.com/peshitta/sedrajs for more. The output from the script, the converted JS database is just 2MB in size.

I see I have hundreds of downloads of the related libraries in the span of just a couple of weeks since I published them: https://github.com/peshitta?tab=repositories 
That's so great to see there is interest. If you see this and use any of them, it would surely help if you drop me a note on how you use them, do you find them helpful, thoughts for improvement, etc.

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  Estrangela v1 ASCII font
Posted by: borota - 09-08-2017, 10:06 PM - Forum: General - No Replies

Does somebody know of a more detailed explanation of how to use http://www.peshitta.org/fonts/ESTRANG2.TTF besides just http://www.peshitta.org/images/Keyestr.jpg?
My main question is when is one supposed to use the SHIFT version of Vowels/Accents/Others, in what contexts or with what consonants?
(I am well aware of Unicode Estrangela fonts freely available, I am specifically interested in this ASCII font, for some valid (I believe) reasons)

Also this forum seems to be extremely quiet, there used to be a lot of activity a few years back, could somebody point me to the place where the activity is happening now? If Facebook, would one mind posting the exact link?

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  Aramaic Gospel of Matthew {Audio}
Posted by: Thirdwoe - 09-04-2017, 07:19 PM - Forum: General - Replies (7)

What would this audio reading be from exactly? I'm hoping to find a good audio reading from the Aramaic text that matches the reading of The Peshitta manuscripts.


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  Crossing (Christian Art)
Posted by: gregglaser - 07-26-2017, 06:34 PM - Forum: General - Replies (3)

The woman at the top is Jerusalem, and the woman at the bottom is Laodicea.  My wife drew this.  Notice the Peshitta quote from John 15:9.

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According to the sword & shepherd’s staff symbol that I found encoded on the earth through the ancient text of the Book of Revelation, the completion of the Church of Laodicea is happening now (circa 2018-2020AD; Hebrew Year 5778-5780).  

What does it mean that the Laodicea church is complete?  I think it means we are beginning Revelation 12:15.
And according to the synchronicity of the gospel of Mark with Revelation (where Mark chapter 8 syncs with the Laodicea church of Rev 3:14-22), these words from Mark 8:34 are the ones I’d like to share today:

ܘܩܪܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܠܟܢܫܐ ܥܡ ܬܠܡܝܕܘܗܝ ܘܐܡܪ ܠܗܘܢ ܡܢ ܕܨܒܐ ܕܢܐܬܐ ܒܬܪܝ ܢܟܦܘܪ ܒܢܦܫܗ ܘܢܫܩܘܠ ܙܩܝܦܗ ܘܢܐܬܐ ܒܬܪܝ

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  Biblical Aramaic flashcards in 3-steps
Posted by: gregglaser - 06-30-2017, 03:16 PM - Forum: General - No Replies

First, purchase some English bible flashcards featuring attractive biblical art: example

Second, type & print several short sentences and phrases from the Peshitta, such as ܘܩܪܐ ܐܢܘܢ ܝܫܘܥ ("And Yahshua called them.")

Third, tape one sentence/phrase to each flashcard (when there are bible verse numbers on the back of each flashcard, it will help you match the picture to gospel text).


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  Error in the UBS version
Posted by: Thirdwoe - 06-23-2017, 06:50 AM - Forum: General - Replies (2)

Can you find the mistake here in the UBS Peshitto text for Matthew 21:24?

ܥܢܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܘܐܡܪ ܠܗܘܢ ܐܫܐܠܟܘܢ ܐܦ ܐܢܐ ܡܠܬܐ ܚܕܐ ܘܐܢ ܬܐܡܪܘܢ ܠܝ ܘܐܦ ܐܢܐ ܐܡܪ ܐܢܐ ܠܟܘܢ ܒܐܝܢܐ ܫܘܠܛܢܐ ܗܠܝܢ ܥܒܕ ܐܢܐ ܀

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