11-28-2011, 01:02 AM
bensocha Wrote:Hi Paul Younan :-)
Thank you for your reply - yes, I think that's a good argument. The early disciples were probably commonly known as "Meshikhaye" or "Mashiyachim" and only later this word was translated into Greek. When non-Jewish believers took over they simply forgot the Jewish origin of their faith.
I am Judeo-Messianic believer and I was tought to stick to Hebrew rather than Aramaic or Greek, but I want to learn more and I am happy I have found this webside :-) Blessings for all of you! Shalom!
Bartek
Shalom Akhi Bartek:
I just want to throw some light on the historical background which led to the first naming of the Antioch, Greek speaking Gentile believers in Mashiakh, as Christians.It's not likely that Greek speaking gentiles forgot the Jewish origins of the Jewish faith in the middle of the First Century, since the Temple was standing at that time and the Apostles (all Jewish) were still alive. After the destruction of Jerusalem, Yavneh became the Rabbinical centre of leadership for Kol Beyt Yisrael both in the Land and in the Diaspora. Messianic Jews escaped to Petra, where they were safe from further Roman atrocities as well as attacks from the unbelieving Jews and their Rabbinic leadership. In 93 A. D. Rabbi Gamaliel II commissioned Samuel the Small (Sh'muel haKatan) to write the 19th benediction of the Amidah, cursing all Messianic Jews (Netzarim), calling them minim (heretics). By adding this ?prayer?, Messianic Jews could not enter the synagogue and recite the Amidah without uttering a curse upon themselves. This stands in contrast to Acs 15 where the synagogue was the local place of Jewish worship both in the Land and throughout the world. The slow amnesia of the Greek speaking Christians, concerning the Jewish roots of Messianic faith began after the Bar Kokhba (Ben Kosiva) revolt which ended with the destruction of Betar (132 A.D to 136 A.D.) and the banishment of the Jews from the Land, except for the small Rabbinical community in Modiin which the Romans allowed. This city was the centre from which arose the Talmudic beginnings, the written Mishnah as it exists today. I hope this helps you to understand some depth of the original controversies between the Messianic -Christian community vis-a-vis the Judaism of Modiin, namely Talmud-Torah (toward the end of the second century and which was completed in the fifth century, incidentaly, about 100 years before Muhammed).
Shalom uV'rakha,
Stephen Silver
Dukhrana Biblical Research
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