08-11-2008, 08:36 AM
Hi guys, this post is indeed interesting to me from the point that it coincides with the topic I posted re 'the first day of the week'...
Paul, you say 'who cares'. YHWH says He cares or He would not have His 'appointed times'. Yeshua gave one sign to 'disbelieving' Israel, the sugn of Jonah. The sign of Jonah clearly states in Biblical Hebrew '3 days and 3 nights'...In many instances in the brit HaChadasha He states this message to His talmidim.
And yes, before everyone throws their toys out of the cot, He did rise and that's all that matters! In my attempt to have clarified the translation from the Aramaic to English I specifically singled out Mattai 28:1 knowing that there has always been much controversy especially the 'Sabbath' versus the 'Sunday' (or first day of the week) translations. Christianity has stood on the 'first day resurrection theory' for a very long time. But is it true? Marcion himself has much responsibility here in his act to 'remove anything Jewish' from the scriptures.
Back to my point though. There is much debate that the Aramaic text (here) has primacy over other texts. But to be pragmatic, does it? This subject has provoked many points of view but YHWH has the final say. Yes, it is an 'argument from silence'.
Paul, when you say 'you really don't get it' I must state that the study and conversation thus far reveals much debate BUT we as always have to defer to the scriptures. When we do this we ask 'which scriptures?' Do we faithfully rely on the inerrant words from the Textus Receptus or use our Bible hermeneutics to discover original meanings. I have learned (for example) of the wonderful Aramaic idioms which have made my understanding of scripture much clearer especially in the light of culture, language, and contemporary thinking. Thankfully, YHWH has written His words concerning the observance of Pesach.
Albion, than you for raising this subject but I shall now return to my post for some further discussion...
Shalom brothers (and sisters?),
Mark
Paul, you say 'who cares'. YHWH says He cares or He would not have His 'appointed times'. Yeshua gave one sign to 'disbelieving' Israel, the sugn of Jonah. The sign of Jonah clearly states in Biblical Hebrew '3 days and 3 nights'...In many instances in the brit HaChadasha He states this message to His talmidim.
And yes, before everyone throws their toys out of the cot, He did rise and that's all that matters! In my attempt to have clarified the translation from the Aramaic to English I specifically singled out Mattai 28:1 knowing that there has always been much controversy especially the 'Sabbath' versus the 'Sunday' (or first day of the week) translations. Christianity has stood on the 'first day resurrection theory' for a very long time. But is it true? Marcion himself has much responsibility here in his act to 'remove anything Jewish' from the scriptures.
Back to my point though. There is much debate that the Aramaic text (here) has primacy over other texts. But to be pragmatic, does it? This subject has provoked many points of view but YHWH has the final say. Yes, it is an 'argument from silence'.
Paul, when you say 'you really don't get it' I must state that the study and conversation thus far reveals much debate BUT we as always have to defer to the scriptures. When we do this we ask 'which scriptures?' Do we faithfully rely on the inerrant words from the Textus Receptus or use our Bible hermeneutics to discover original meanings. I have learned (for example) of the wonderful Aramaic idioms which have made my understanding of scripture much clearer especially in the light of culture, language, and contemporary thinking. Thankfully, YHWH has written His words concerning the observance of Pesach.
Albion, than you for raising this subject but I shall now return to my post for some further discussion...
Shalom brothers (and sisters?),
Mark