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CoE on eschatology
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Paul Younan Wrote:Personally, I believe in the prophetic rebirth of Assyria:

"In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptian shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:" (Isaiah 19:23-24)

Yes I heard that many Assyrians view that passage in this way. Since it mentions Egypt as well, I wonder how the Copts view it. Where I'm living at the moment, I don't have an opportunity to interact with CoE Christians (there's no CoE Parish where I live), will be moving to London, UK later this year, and maybe then I'll get an opportunity to attend a CoE Parish & maybe even learn at least some Aramaic. There is a CoE Parish in London, UK right?

Quote:However, even if "Assyria" is never reborn....remember that 99% of Assyrians/Babylonians today are Arabic-speaking and Muslim. They are known as "Iraqis", of the Shiite and Sunni branches.

Iraqis are just Babylonians and Assyrians who converted from paganism to Christianity, then to Islam.

The only "Arabs", in the ethnic sense, are people from Arabia. The nations of the middle east speak Arabic, but none are "Arabs" ethnically except for those in (Saudi) Arabia.

The Arabic-speaking Muslims of modern-day Syria are the descendants of the old Arameans. The Arabic-speaking Muslims of Lebanon are Phoenicians. Arabic-speaking Muslims in Egypt are descended from the old Egyptians. None of these people are "Arabs."

Likewise, in Mexico, most of the people are natives (Aztecs, Mayans, etc.) even though they are Spanish-speaking and Catholic. Just because they speak Spanish and practice Roman Catholicism doesn't make them Spaniards, right?

So even if there's never a nation called "Assyria" again, still the "Assyrians" are today alive and well in ancient Mesopotamia.

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Yes it does make sense, and the Arabs view it this way as well. I once dated an Iraqi Arab who was a convert to Christianity from Shia Islam, and he told me that the Iraqi Arabs do view themselves as the descendents of the Babylonians & Assyrians.

Quote:Could the "Anti-Christ" be an ethnic "Assyrian" (whatever that means?), Sure. Saddam was one "Assyrian' who sure came close, after gassing hundreds of Christian Assyrian villages in the north and making up plans to invade all the rest of the nations in the middle east, especially Israel.

Ethnic "Assyrian" most probably, after all that's the only clue Scripture gives for his ethnicity, otherwise he's called by his "royal titles" (King of Babylon, Prince of Tyre, Gog of Magog, Pharaoh of Egypt, etc.). However (IMO) it's pretty obvious that he's Muslim, he certainly behaves like one, I believe he's the Mahdi whom Muslims are waiting for.

Taking what you said about the modern Muslim Lebanese, Iraqis, Jordanians, etc. I think that Psalm 83 illustrates these Muslim nations & peoples comming against Israel:

83:1 Elohim, don???t keep silent. Don???t keep silent, and don???t be still, Elohim.
83:2 For, behold, Your enemies are stirred up. Those who hate You have lifted up their heads.
83:3 They conspire with cunning against Your people. They plot against Your cherished ones.
83:4 ???Come,??? they say, ???and let???s destroy them as a nation, that the name of Yisra'el may be remembered no more.??? 83:5 For they have conspired together with one mind. They form an alliance against You.
83:6 The tents of Edom [Jordan] and the Ishmaelites [Saudis]; Moab [Jordan], and the Hagrites [Egyptians];
83:7 Gebal [Lebanon], Ammon [Jordan], and Amalek [Jordan]; Philistia [Palestine] with the inhabitants of Tyre [Lebanese];
83:8 Assyria [Iraq] also is joined with them. They have helped the children of Lot [Jordanians]. Selah.
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CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 02-28-2008, 06:20 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 02-29-2008, 05:51 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 02-29-2008, 06:56 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 02-29-2008, 07:17 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 02-29-2008, 07:40 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 02-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 03-02-2008, 04:38 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 03-03-2008, 04:54 AM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 03-03-2008, 12:30 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Christina - 03-03-2008, 12:49 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 03-03-2008, 05:42 PM
Re: CoE on eschatology - by Paul Younan - 03-03-2008, 08:44 PM

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