"Jesus in Acts"

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Shlama Akhi Dave,

You are discussing interpretation, not translation. Doctrine should not determine translation . Otherwise, Baptists would buy Bibles translated by Baptists and Pentecostals would translate their own Bible, etc., etc. Nobody would agree on anything, because everyone would have his own Bible ! I would translate my way, and you, your way.

That is sheer madness , Dave . God wrote one Bible, not 300. We must study the languages and believe the written word. You and I would know nothing about The Holy Spirit and Jesus without the Bible. You cannot dictate what it means or which reading is correct by praying. If it is written in Aramaic and Hebrew, then you will learn to read Aramaic and Hebrew ( I am glad you have begun to do that); Someone has to, otherwise, all the prayer in the world will tell you nothing. We would still be in The Dark Ages when only priests could read and interpret scripture.

I don't see a second blessing or baptism in the NT. Either one is a Christian, and has the Holy Spirit in him, or he is not a Christian and has not the Holy Spirit in him. What scripture have I missed ?

I can show you 12 verses ,in any translation you like, that teach this; Show me two or three that contradict these, and I will concede your point.

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Ro 8:10 ?? And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

1Co 3:16 ?? Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ga 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

2Ti 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.

1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jo 4:4 ?? Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

What is greater than having God the Father, God the Son, and God The Holy Ghost dwelling within us and we in God ?

18 ?? I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father???s which sent me.
25 ?? These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

26 ?? But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
1 ?? These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
7 ?? Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

God has given me everything He has given you, Dave; He has loved us all with the love He gave His Son, as the word of Christ says. We should not parade any gift or doctrine but the infinite Love of our infinite LORD and His Spirit Who is Love for all people . 1 Cor. 13 makes that point plain. The Peshitta says" :
If I speak in all the languages of men and of the angels , and have not love, I should be like brass that resoundeth, or the cymbal that maketh a noise."

Burkhtha w'shlama,


Dave