12-27-2013, 05:06 PM
PY and others-
I'm NOT saying that there are no Chiastic Structures outside of Greek authorship and I thank you PY for stating exactly that.
This is precisely the type of puzzle I am looking for. It's a simple question and I'm just not looking for a fight here.
1. Does the Peshitta Mark illustrate Chiastic Structure? (In one sense, it would be obviously true. I'm looking for more.)
2. Are there Structures within such a Framework that would illustrate Aramaic Primacy?
3. Consider this: "Son, here's a $10 dollar bill. Would you go to the store and, as we say in the English Language, buy a loaf of bread and some milk?" What's wrong with this?
Then, consider this: "...And about the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea..." What's wrong with this?
The Jewish Fighters had 3 watches: See Lamentations 2: 19, Judges 7: 19 and Exodus 14:24. What's "Fourth Watch" doing here?
Turton has made an interesting Study. The comment above about finding an "Interpolation" in Mark because there are passages that do NOT perform to a particular Chiastic Structure is on target - It does not , however, invalidate his claim. Such evidence does not always rise to the level of a Proof Statement. It is suggestive. I'm looking at one of the "Long Speeches" that Turton states should be considered a single entry in a Chiasm. It appears, to me, to have a Structure within itself. Again, it does not invalidate the Chiastic idea. It opens up a new area of research.
If these Structures are there, then there must be an Aramaic Component to them. The alternative is to state that Mark was written in Aramaic without these Structures and Greek translation not only translated the Aramaic but did so as an artistic exercise when the Chiastic Structures were added. This does not seen plausible.
CW
PS: Congratulations, PY, on your find.
I'm NOT saying that there are no Chiastic Structures outside of Greek authorship and I thank you PY for stating exactly that.
This is precisely the type of puzzle I am looking for. It's a simple question and I'm just not looking for a fight here.
1. Does the Peshitta Mark illustrate Chiastic Structure? (In one sense, it would be obviously true. I'm looking for more.)
2. Are there Structures within such a Framework that would illustrate Aramaic Primacy?
3. Consider this: "Son, here's a $10 dollar bill. Would you go to the store and, as we say in the English Language, buy a loaf of bread and some milk?" What's wrong with this?
Then, consider this: "...And about the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea..." What's wrong with this?
The Jewish Fighters had 3 watches: See Lamentations 2: 19, Judges 7: 19 and Exodus 14:24. What's "Fourth Watch" doing here?
Turton has made an interesting Study. The comment above about finding an "Interpolation" in Mark because there are passages that do NOT perform to a particular Chiastic Structure is on target - It does not , however, invalidate his claim. Such evidence does not always rise to the level of a Proof Statement. It is suggestive. I'm looking at one of the "Long Speeches" that Turton states should be considered a single entry in a Chiasm. It appears, to me, to have a Structure within itself. Again, it does not invalidate the Chiastic idea. It opens up a new area of research.
If these Structures are there, then there must be an Aramaic Component to them. The alternative is to state that Mark was written in Aramaic without these Structures and Greek translation not only translated the Aramaic but did so as an artistic exercise when the Chiastic Structures were added. This does not seen plausible.
CW
PS: Congratulations, PY, on your find.