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Aramaic Primacy vs. the KJV Only Movement
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Rafa Wrote:So what about that Akhi Paul? This guy is saying your a Greek that escaped Constantinople when Nestorius was "condemned" that fled to Persia where you made up a church that believed in "2 persons in Jesus Christ" !

Isn't that amazing? How is it that all these Constantinopilans fled into a different empire, learned a new language like Aramaic? They really left everything behind, including their language and wonderfully rich culture and traded for a new set....did they not? Wow, I don't know of another case like that in history, that was voluntary at least.

Rafa Wrote:So the COE traces itself to the council of Ephesus?

Sure, didn't you know that? The 3-4 Persian Synods held before Ephesus (like the synod held in Markabta of the Arabs, where the independence of the CoE was codified) was held by a non-existent Church. Makes a lot of sense.

Rafa Wrote:You know Akhi Paul, that business on "King Prestor John" at least one of my ancestors believed in while sailing in the caravels to the far East is probably more historical than what these guys are writing here. I mean please- God allowing Turks to attack Constantinople because "Greeks were reading Aramaic", saying a text with the scribal work of the Peshitta was written down by a Greek in his lunch break, "Alaha" being a pagan god, Yeshua/Jesus speaking Greek, .... <!-- s:crazy: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/crazy.gif" alt=":crazy:" title="Crazy" /><!-- s:crazy: -->

You know it's unfortunately a scary thing to most Western Christians (at least the American Evangelical variety) to even consider the fact that the Islamic-sounding "Alaha" is in their own Aramaic origin. Just as it is in every Muslim persons Aramaic origin. If they just were a bit more educated on the topic they could come to terms with the fact that there's nothing Islamic or Pagan about the term anymore than the Hebrew "Aleph-Lamed-Heh" or even the English "God."

Rafa Wrote:Just seeing this stuff makes me sad actually. I mean, No wonder many Jews and Muslims don't want to have anything to do with Christianity when these are the people claiming to be the "great" exponents of the faith.

I agree, and if you notice there isn't much interest in interaction with these types of Christians on the part of old, apostolic churches, either. OMG, could you imagine their faces if they were to sit and hear a typical Coptic or Maronite sermon in Arabic? "He said Allah!" OMG!!!

Rafa Wrote:At the end of the day though, Who do you think has a more refined, educated, historical approach to our religion:

But Akh, those pictures have turbans on them there. They's definitely Ay-rabs. Jeeeez-us warned us 'bout them. They aren't say-ved. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: --> (sorry couldn't resist, my Wife's from the South)

You know it's such an entrenched image here in my country, that of Evangelistic Protestantism, that I sometimes feel like an alien or something. I'm sure Roman Catholics and those of the various Greek and Orthodox Churches feel the same way here.

Imagine, we even have a different canon altogether. We really are sojourners here.
+Shamasha Paul bar-Shimun de'Beth-Younan
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Re: Aramaic Primacy vs. the KJV Only Movement - by Paul Younan - 02-28-2009, 07:41 PM

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