Matthew 28:19

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Shlama Paul,

Your objection to The Holy Spirit being a Person would also have to apply to God The Father. John 4:24 says, "God is a Spirit". Does that mean God The Father cannot be a Person ? Angels are also spirits- see Hebrews 1:7. Are they not persons ?

You and Dave both seem to concede that Eusebius
is the only source you have for the reading "in My Name" at matthew 28:19 . Did you know that Eusebius also quotes the verse in the traditional words, "in The Name of The Father, and of The Son, and of The Holy Spirit" ?
Where did he get that reading ?

You guys are really grasping at straws, now .
Show me one Greek manuscript of Matthew with a different reading. Show me one Aramaic ms. with a different reading of the verse in question. Show me one version of Matthew in any ancient language with a different reading.

To disregard plain scripture and substitute conjecture in its place is sheer folly. It most certainly is not scholarship or wisdom.

Dave says I am a heretic for believing it is scripture, and he is orthodox for not believing it !

I don't know how anyone could take him seriously.

Let's stick to the evidence, gentlemen.


Yours for Truth,

Dave

Dave, yes the Father is a person. I don't know where you get that I discount that the Father can be a person because He is Spirit. The Holy Spirit however is the divine nature of the Father. Again, if the Holy Spirit were a person then those that believe in the Trinity should look at the salutations in each of the epistles where the Holy Spirit is non-existant.

As for Eusibius - yes he did make the rending of Matt 28:19 that we find now but it was only after the council. If you read his history you will find that he leaned towards favor of Arianism which the Council seemed to be brought together to reach consensus between the bishops on what to adopt whether it be the Trinity or the doctrine that Arius supported. After the Council it was determined that the resulting creed would fall in favor of the Trinity while Arius was further persecuted as well as others in favor of his doctrines.

What should alarm us is that the Holy Spirit is the revealer of Truth - for there to even be need of the Council to begin with should tell us how false the establishment was.

Paul