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Matthew 28:19
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The Holy Spirit in Matthew 28:19 is made out to be another person when its not. We know the Holy Spirit is "OF" the Father or the Father's Spirit:

Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Baptizing in the "name" can only be applicable in my opinion to a person. Whereas a "spirit" is not a person but is part of a person. For example:

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

So it makes only sense that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit within the Father that can be within others:

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

If the Holy Spirit were another person then it would be included as another person of the Godhead in all the salutations in the epistles of which it isnt but yet the Father and the Son are.

The fact that Eusibius quoted from a Gospel of Matthew that is different and predates the current rendering of verse 28:19 assures me that there is tampering that has been done. Furthermore, Eusibius confirms that Matthew wrote a Gospel in the Hebrew Tongue the only real renderings that we have that match what Eusibius quoted are Hebrew sources. So whether or not Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic is prime in this situation we have older confirmation in history and by reason of scripture that show the verse to be in contradiction.

To accept the verse as valid says that the earlier source that Eusibius quoted was wrong and leaves contradiction in the accepted form.

Paul
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Matthew 28:19 - by trettep - 06-03-2005, 01:31 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-03-2005, 08:00 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-03-2005, 08:59 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-13-2005, 08:34 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-13-2005, 11:11 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-13-2005, 09:03 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 06-13-2005, 10:11 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-13-2005, 11:14 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-14-2005, 02:46 AM
What's in a name ? - by gbausc - 06-19-2005, 11:54 AM
What's in a name ? - by gbausc - 06-19-2005, 11:56 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-19-2005, 01:40 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-20-2005, 02:55 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-21-2005, 03:09 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-22-2005, 01:22 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-22-2005, 06:18 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-23-2005, 03:04 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-23-2005, 05:15 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-23-2005, 10:56 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-24-2005, 03:01 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-24-2005, 10:28 AM
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[No subject] - by trettep - 06-27-2005, 08:23 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 06-30-2005, 01:28 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-30-2005, 08:55 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-01-2005, 05:39 PM
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[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 07-06-2005, 05:26 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-07-2005, 05:28 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 07-07-2005, 05:38 PM
Matthew 24:35 - by gbausc - 07-07-2005, 10:33 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 07-07-2005, 11:45 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-08-2005, 03:12 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-08-2005, 08:18 PM
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[No subject] - by trettep - 07-09-2005, 11:01 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-09-2005, 11:58 AM
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[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-10-2005, 12:22 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 01:32 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 08:42 AM
Ploughman (& Blogging Dave) answered - by gbausc - 07-11-2005, 10:00 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 12:40 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 12:59 PM
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