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Matthew 28:19
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Shlama all,

The Greek phrase, "en tw onoma"-"In the Name" means "In The authority", according to A.T. Robertson , the foremost NT Greek authority.All known mss., Greek,Latin and Aramaic, that contain this passage, have the same reading, translated into English, Matthew 28:19 reads:
"Go ye, therefore, and disciple all the nations, Immersing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,"???Rotherham's Emphasized Bible

All of the mss. - thousands of them- all Greek mss. , all Latin mss., all Peshitta mss. (The two Old Syriac mss. are missing the last section of Matthew 27-28), and all ancient versions contain this reading. Eusebius quotes it in exactly the same words (see former post about this).

While no other verse has such a command, no other verse has a command to baptise in any other way. Jesus did not say,"Use these words when you baptize". He gave the authority of The Godhead to His disciples in baptism, as "all authority in Heaven and earth" had been given to Him. (See verse 18). "As the Father has sent Me, so I am sending you." -also verse 18. The disciples were given the full authority from The Triune God to make disciples and baptise them.

There is no mention of what words to speak, when baptizing, simply the authority to make converts and baptize.

No other verse like John 1:1 exists either. Does that make it false ? All mss. agree on that verse as well.

Only once does the Bible say "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" . Should we change it, because the Bible says, "God is not a man..." ? All mss. support John 1:14 as is.

No one has refuted my contention that The name "Jesus Christ" includes reference to The Trinity, by its very nature. A.T. Robertson agrees on this point as well, as would any sound Bible exegete.
Those railing againt Matthew 28:19 do not believe in the Trinity , Dave. That is the only reason they cavil against it. Is that now your position ?

Are you saying that all the men of God who baptize in the name of The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit for two thousand years, including most Protestants, and more specifically, most Pentecostals and charismatics, have been dishonoring Jesus Christ by naming The Father and the Holy Spirit at baptism?

In order to remove the Trinity teaching, one would need to remove quite a few other readings, including 2 Cor. 13:14, Isaiah 48:16 and Acts 10:38, among many passages which mention all Three together in context, especially Jesus' baptism in Matthew 3 and Luke 3, as well as in Mark 1 and John 1.

Burktha,
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Matthew 28:19 - by trettep - 06-03-2005, 01:31 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-03-2005, 08:00 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-03-2005, 08:59 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-13-2005, 08:34 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-13-2005, 11:11 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-13-2005, 09:03 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 06-13-2005, 10:11 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-13-2005, 11:14 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-14-2005, 02:46 AM
What's in a name ? - by gbausc - 06-19-2005, 11:54 AM
What's in a name ? - by gbausc - 06-19-2005, 11:56 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-19-2005, 01:40 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-20-2005, 02:55 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-21-2005, 03:09 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-22-2005, 01:22 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-22-2005, 06:18 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-23-2005, 03:04 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-23-2005, 05:15 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-23-2005, 10:56 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-24-2005, 03:01 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 06-24-2005, 10:28 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 06-24-2005, 06:29 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-27-2005, 08:23 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 06-30-2005, 01:28 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 06-30-2005, 08:55 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-01-2005, 05:39 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 07-01-2005, 08:02 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 07-02-2005, 12:51 PM
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[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-05-2005, 10:38 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 07-06-2005, 04:58 AM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 07-06-2005, 05:26 PM
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[No subject] - by trettep - 07-07-2005, 05:38 PM
Matthew 24:35 - by gbausc - 07-07-2005, 10:33 PM
[No subject] - by trettep - 07-07-2005, 11:45 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-08-2005, 03:12 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-08-2005, 08:18 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-08-2005, 09:34 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-09-2005, 06:47 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-09-2005, 09:59 AM
[No subject] - by trettep - 07-09-2005, 11:01 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-09-2005, 11:58 AM
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[No subject] - by trettep - 07-09-2005, 10:19 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 07-10-2005, 05:32 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 07-10-2005, 12:22 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 01:32 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 08:42 AM
Ploughman (& Blogging Dave) answered - by gbausc - 07-11-2005, 10:00 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 12:40 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 07-11-2005, 12:59 PM
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