Luke 2:22 casts DARK SHADOWS on Aramaic Primacy

[Paul Younan]

Thanks, man. But I am unfamiliar with the liturgical practises of the c.o.e. But not even in any Orthodox church be it Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Syrian Orthodox, etc., is there any practise of an animal offering either for atonement or sin offering.

Hey Mike, I understand what you're saying as far as the Greek, Russian, Armenian, etc. Churches. In the CoE, an animal offering is never given for atonement (a sin offering). Neither was every animal sacrifice in the OT for sin offering, either.

But the CoE is a Semitic branch of the Church, and being so it has many things that would remind you of Judaism or Islam. We lived in an area of the world that still does these things and we still practice things like "Niddah" (the Jewish term for purity laws) and offerings of thanksgiving like Lambs, etc.

I don't want you to think the CoE does animal sacrifices for sin offerings, that would be a denial of the Sacrifice of our Lord.

All of the ANIMAL sacrifices under the OT were done for this purpose.

No, not all Akhi. A mother wasn't required to bring two doves because she sinned giving birth. Quite the opposite - we are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. There's nothing sinful or that needs atonement for having a baby.

Whatever conclusion we come to regarding Mary's purification in Luke 2:22 one thing is for sure: the sacrifice of Luke 2:24 is for her and her alone. It can not be for Y'shua, I believe.

The offering she gave was for her according to the Law, it wasn't for Yeshua, no.

All the O.T. ANIMAL sacrifices are a type of Y'shua sacrifice and points to the Messiah sacrifice which he fulfilled on the cross.

No, just the sin offerings. There were many types of offerings for different reasons other than atonement for sin.

Once he accomplished this there is no longer any ANIMAL offering needed any longer. Hebrews should tell us this w/o any doubt.

Kindly,

Mike [/b]

There are no animal sacrifices needed for sin, absolutely not.