09-21-2008, 05:33 PM
It's from the Jerusalem Talmud (in the mishna of Haggigah) and the reason no one can give you a reference is because most citations of it are based on made-up info and any closer examination shows that it doesn't refer to the Christian Mary at all. You mostly hear that from Christian polemics or missonary material.
Joachim is only a tradition among Catholics, Anglicans and the Orthodox. Protestants tend toward Eli. And now the Gawra theory provides yet more speculation.
Joachim is only a tradition among Catholics, Anglicans and the Orthodox. Protestants tend toward Eli. And now the Gawra theory provides yet more speculation.

