The Origin of the Western Five

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Shlama Akhi,

Thank you for your patience and long responses.

I think we are misunderstanding each other. I am not concerned right now with convincing you that Revelation is inspired. You will be thinking about that for years, no doubt.
What concerns me now is your statement above concerning this that I wrote:

We would know nothing about salvation or The Holy Spirit without the Scriptures. We are saved by believing the Gospel message as written in the New Testament. We would know nothing about Yeshua without the scriptures.

to which you responded:

Akhi Dave, none of the above is true.....at all. None of it.

I cannot believe you said that. It blows my mind that you said that.

You seem to think I was talking about the first century believers. I don't know why you would assume that.

You responded to another statement of mine:
I said-

The gospel was not preserved orally. It was written for all time and eternity.

You said:

Of course it was preserved orally. When Meshikha first spoke those words, they weren't written down. When the authors of the Gospels were writing these books, it was after the fact. It was only later written down.

You again assume I am talking about how the first century Apostles received the Gospel. I am referring to how we receive the gospel today, and how everyone living from then till now has received it, and how everyone from now till the end of time will receive it.

Is this a basic cultural difference between us? Is there a barrier here that is not allowing our words to pass through?

Dave