02-12-2005, 03:20 PM
Welcome to the forum Elassar!
You are correct. The second occurrence of Alaha (Eloah/Elohim) is preceded by a WAW proclitic which, like in Hebrew, means AND.
As for the rest, Miltha is an incredibly difficult word to convey in English. It can mean Word/logos, but also Manifestation, Emanation, Substance, a real Strider among these many meanings and others too numerous to mention.
I have tended to like focusing on (not exclusively mind you) the MANIFESTATION aspect of Miltha. As the word that comes out of YHWH's mouth, Yah's words are Him even as your words are yours and mine are mine. That breath from MarYah (and the word Ruach/Rokha also means "spirit" and "force") is the Action after the Will thinks of it. Another good way to look at it is as your arm being part of your body but under the control of your mind. Your arm is not separate from you, and so it is with Father and Son (Isaiah 53:1).
So, without getting too much into theology, in the sense I described, you can say the Miltha was with Elohim (God, Aram. Alaha) and was Elohim at the same time. Before being spoken, the Word (Miltha) was in Yah's mind and therefore prexistent prior to creation in that way. After being spoken in power, the Miltha enacted with force the creation through Messiah's hands (literally from the Aramaic) under control of the Divine Mind.
Hope this helps.
How about you, Chris and I get some ale at the Green Dragon Inn? Or do you prefer the Prancing Pony at Bree? Chris is practically next door to Middle Earth as it is, in Australia. Meanwhile my motto is:
One text to rule them all.
One language to find them.
One version from the apostle's pens.
And by enlghtenment, grind them.
Oh well, the road goes ever on...
You are correct. The second occurrence of Alaha (Eloah/Elohim) is preceded by a WAW proclitic which, like in Hebrew, means AND.
As for the rest, Miltha is an incredibly difficult word to convey in English. It can mean Word/logos, but also Manifestation, Emanation, Substance, a real Strider among these many meanings and others too numerous to mention.
I have tended to like focusing on (not exclusively mind you) the MANIFESTATION aspect of Miltha. As the word that comes out of YHWH's mouth, Yah's words are Him even as your words are yours and mine are mine. That breath from MarYah (and the word Ruach/Rokha also means "spirit" and "force") is the Action after the Will thinks of it. Another good way to look at it is as your arm being part of your body but under the control of your mind. Your arm is not separate from you, and so it is with Father and Son (Isaiah 53:1).
So, without getting too much into theology, in the sense I described, you can say the Miltha was with Elohim (God, Aram. Alaha) and was Elohim at the same time. Before being spoken, the Word (Miltha) was in Yah's mind and therefore prexistent prior to creation in that way. After being spoken in power, the Miltha enacted with force the creation through Messiah's hands (literally from the Aramaic) under control of the Divine Mind.
Hope this helps.
How about you, Chris and I get some ale at the Green Dragon Inn? Or do you prefer the Prancing Pony at Bree? Chris is practically next door to Middle Earth as it is, in Australia. Meanwhile my motto is:
One text to rule them all.
One language to find them.
One version from the apostle's pens.
And by enlghtenment, grind them.
Oh well, the road goes ever on...
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Andrew Gabriel Roth
Andrew Gabriel Roth