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Rev 11: my 2nd witness
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Questions for Proponents of 'Marcan Priority'

Do you believe that both Matthew and Luke removed this Mark material?:

Mark 4 (Bauscher)
https://biblehub.com/hpbt/mark/4.htm
26 And he said,
“Thus is the Kingdom of God like
a man who cast seed in the ground.”
27 “And he shall sleep and arise by night and by day
and the seed grows and lengthens while he is unaware.”
28 “For the earth produces fruit itself;
first shall be the blade
and afterward the ear,
then finally the full wheat in the ear.”
29 “But whenever the fruit ripens,
immediately the sickle is brought
because the harvest has arrived.”

Mark 7 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/7.htm
32 There some people brought to him a man who was deaf and could hardly talk, and they begged Jesus to place his hand on him.
33 After he took him aside, away from the crowd, Jesus put his fingers into the man’s ears. Then he spit and touched the man’s tongue.
34 He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to him, “Ephphatha!” (which means “Be opened!”).
35 At this, the man’s ears were opened, his tongue was loosened and he began to speak plainly.
36 Jesus commanded them not to tell anyone. But the more he did so, the more they kept talking about it.
37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.”

Mark 8
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/8.htm
22 They came to Bethsaida, and some people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
23 He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the village. When he had spit on the man’s eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, “Do you see anything?”
24 He looked up and said, “I see people; they look like trees walking around.”
25 Once more Jesus put his hands on the man’s eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly.
26 Jesus sent him home, saying, “Don’t even go into the village.”

Mark 9 (Bauscher)
https://biblehub.com/hpbt/mark/9.htm
49 “For everything will be seasoned with fire
and every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt.”
50b .... Have salt in you
and be at peace with one another.”

Mark 13 (Bauscher)
https://biblehub.com/hpbt/mark/13.htm
35b .... in the evening or at midnight
or at cockcrow or in the morning.”
36 “Lest suddenly he come and find you sleeping.”

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Do you believe Matthew removed this Mark material?:

Mark 1
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/1.htm
21 They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach.
22 The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law.
23 Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an impure spirit cried out,
24 “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are– the Holy One of God!”
25 “Be quiet!” said Jesus sternly. “Come out of him!”
26 The impure spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.
27 The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, “What is this? A new teaching– and with authority! He even gives orders to impure spirits and they obey him.”
28 News about him spread quickly over the whole region of Galilee.

Mark 9
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/9.htm
38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,
40 for whoever is not against us is for us.

Mark 12
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/12.htm
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts.
42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others.
44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything– all she had to live on.”

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke turned Mark's "the wine will be destroyed" into [Mt]"the wine is poured out"/ [Lk]"it will be spilled out"?

Mark 2:22 (Berean Literal)
https://biblehub.com/blb/mark/2.htm
And no one puts new wine into old wineskins;
otherwise the wine will burst the wineskins,
and the wine will be destroyed—and the wineskins.
Instead, new wine _is poured_ into new wineskins.”

Matthew 9:17
https://biblehub.com/blb/matthew/9.htm
Nor do they pour new wine into old wineskins.
Otherwise the wineskins are burst,
and the wine is poured out,
and the wineskins are destroyed.
But they pour new wine into new wineskins,
and both are preserved.”

Luke 5:37
https://biblehub.com/blb/luke/5.htm
And no one puts new wine into old wineskins;
if now otherwise, the new wine will burst the wineskins,
and it will be spilled out,
and the wineskins will be destroyed.
38 But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins.

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke turned Mark's "nest under its shade" into "nest/nested in its branches"?

Mark 4 (NKJV)
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/mark/4.htm
30 Then He said,
“To what shall we liken the kingdom of God?
Or with what parable shall we picture it?
31 It is like a mustard seed which,
when it is sown on the ground,
is smaller than all the seeds on earth;
32 but when it is sown, it grows up and becomes greater than all herbs,
and shoots out large branches,
so that the birds of the air may nest under its shade.”

Matthew 13
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/13.htm
31 Another parable He put forth to them, saying:
“The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed,
which a man took and sowed in his field,
32 which indeed is the least of all the seeds;
but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree,
so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.”

Luke 13
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/luke/13.htm
18 Then He said,
“What is the kingdom of God like?
And to what shall I compare it?
19 It is like a mustard seed,
which a man took and put in his garden;
and it grew and became a large tree,
and the birds of the air nested in its branches.”

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke left out “and the gospel’s”?

Mark 8:35 (NKJV)
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/mark/8.htm
For whoever desires to save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.

Matthew 16:25
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/16.htm
For whoever desires to save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

Luke 9:24
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/luke/9.htm
For whoever desires to save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke left out mention of:
“He took them up in His arms”?
Jesus’ indignation/ being “greatly displeased”?

Mark 10 (NKJV)
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/mark/10.htm
13 Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them,
“Let the little children come to Me,
and do not forbid them;
for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Assuredly, I say to you,
whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child
will by no means enter it.”
16 And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them.

Luke 18
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/luke/18.htm
15 Then they also brought infants to Him that He might touch them; but when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them to Him and said,
“Let the little children come to Me,
and do not forbid them;
for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Assuredly, I say to you,
whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child
will by no means enter it.”
18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”

Matthew 19
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/19.htm
13 Then little children were brought to Him that He might put His hands on them and pray, but the disciples rebuked them.
14 But Jesus said,
“Let the little children come to Me,
and do not forbid them;
for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”
15 And He laid His hands on them and departed from there.

Matthew 18
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/18.htm
1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them,
3 and said,
“Assuredly, I say to you,
unless you are converted and become as little children,
you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke:
left out "So they called to the blind man, 'Cheer up! On your feet! He’s calling you.' Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus"?
replaced the 'rabbi' in Mark's “Rabbi, I want to see” with 'lord'?

Mark 10 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm
48 Many rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!”
49 Jesus stopped and said, “Call him.”
So they called to the blind man, “Cheer up! On your feet! He’s calling you.”
50 Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus.
51 “What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked him.
The blind man said, “Rabbi, I want to see.”
52 “Go,” said Jesus, “your faith has healed you.”
Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.

Matthew 20
https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/20.htm
31 The crowd rebuked them and told them to be quiet, but they shouted all the louder, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on us!”
32 Jesus stopped and called them.
“What do you want me to do for you?” he asked.
33 “Lord,” they answered, “we want our sight.”
34 Jesus had compassion on them and touched their eyes.
Immediately they received their sight and followed him.

Luke 18
https://biblehub.com/niv/luke/18.htm
39 Those who led the way rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!”
40 Jesus stopped and ordered the man to be brought to him. When he came near, Jesus asked him,
41 “What do you want me to do for you?”
“Lord, I want to see,” he replied.
42 Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has healed you.”
43 Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God.
When all the people saw it, they also praised God.

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke left out “the father of Alexander and Rufus"?

Mark 15 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/15.htm
21 A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross.
22 They brought Jesus to the place called Golgotha (which means “the place of the skull”).

Matthew 27
https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/27.htm
32 As they were going out, they met a man from Cyrene, named Simon, and they forced him to carry the cross.
33 They came to a place called Golgotha (which means “the place of the skull”).

Luke 23
https://biblehub.com/niv/luke/23.htm
26 As the soldiers led him away, they seized Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country, and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus.
27 A large number of people followed him, including women who mourned and wailed for him.

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Do you believe both Matthew and Luke left out:
"Salome"?
"they asked each other, 'Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?'"?

Mark 16 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/16.htm
1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body.
2 Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb
3 and they asked each other, “Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?”
4 But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away.
5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed.
6 “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.
7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter, ‘He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.’ ”
8 Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.

Matthew 28 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/28.htm
1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it.
3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow.

Luke 23 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/luke/23.htm
54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin.
55 The women who had come with Jesus from Galilee followed Joseph and saw the tomb and how his body was laid in it.
56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.

Luke 24 (NIV)
https://biblehub.com/niv/luke/24.htm
1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb.
2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb,
3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them.
5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead?
6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:
7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ”
8 Then they remembered his words.
9 When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others.
10 It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles.
11 But they did not believe the women, because their words seemed to them like nonsense.
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