08-11-2011, 09:59 PM
Greetings bar Sinko,
I don't see things as you do.
I see major bias in the way in which Jerry is going about to "translate" these verses.
And my tone has not been bad or wrong with him, as far as I can detect...but it is critical of what Jerry is doing in my judgment, which I see as an attempt to twist the meaning that is not there...it seems to me to be that way.
And if you would correct me for this....then this is the same thing that he has said I am doing...if you took notice of the whole conversation...will you be ballanced in your corrections?
And as to being "kinder"...I'll do my best to be as gentle as possible concerning this matter, since I know people can be offended easily...did you think that Jerry's tone with me was kind and sweet? If so, perhaps I can use some of his terms when referring to him, as he did for me...would that be going in the right direction in your judgment?
And do you believe that Andrew Gabriel Roth, has mis-translated all the places where he renders "Marya" as "Master YHWH". And if so, how would you translate the verses?
Lamsa, often in the same passages, translates "Marya" as LORD...rather than Lord or lord...as Jerry is doing here...is Jerry more accurate than both Lamsa and Roth...and Younan for that matter, who supports Roth's translation in this instance I believe, from other posts where Jerry and Paul have spoken about the issue.
What is your belief about Y'shua being YHWH in the flesh...? Do you believe it, don't believe it, don't know?
I am not upset with Jerry in the slightest, just in case you might think that way...just calling him on what I see as a theological bias in what he is doing...and he seems to think that same things of me, and those who would translate the way as it stands in the Lamsa and Roth versions.
Slamah,
Chuck
I don't see things as you do.
I see major bias in the way in which Jerry is going about to "translate" these verses.
And my tone has not been bad or wrong with him, as far as I can detect...but it is critical of what Jerry is doing in my judgment, which I see as an attempt to twist the meaning that is not there...it seems to me to be that way.
And if you would correct me for this....then this is the same thing that he has said I am doing...if you took notice of the whole conversation...will you be ballanced in your corrections?
And as to being "kinder"...I'll do my best to be as gentle as possible concerning this matter, since I know people can be offended easily...did you think that Jerry's tone with me was kind and sweet? If so, perhaps I can use some of his terms when referring to him, as he did for me...would that be going in the right direction in your judgment?
And do you believe that Andrew Gabriel Roth, has mis-translated all the places where he renders "Marya" as "Master YHWH". And if so, how would you translate the verses?
Lamsa, often in the same passages, translates "Marya" as LORD...rather than Lord or lord...as Jerry is doing here...is Jerry more accurate than both Lamsa and Roth...and Younan for that matter, who supports Roth's translation in this instance I believe, from other posts where Jerry and Paul have spoken about the issue.
What is your belief about Y'shua being YHWH in the flesh...? Do you believe it, don't believe it, don't know?
I am not upset with Jerry in the slightest, just in case you might think that way...just calling him on what I see as a theological bias in what he is doing...and he seems to think that same things of me, and those who would translate the way as it stands in the Lamsa and Roth versions.
Slamah,
Chuck