04-03-2010, 11:00 AM
Aaron S Wrote:Romans 3:20
You say that Torah is extremely important to your faith and yet, if you read on in the above passage that you gave (verses 24 and 25, I believe) it directly contradicts what is written in Exodus 23:7-8 ... or, if you would like, seen from a different light, it rather proves what is said in Exodus 23:7-8, that is, what Paul said. No man is justified by the shedding of another man's blood ... not ever, not even once has this proved to be truth. What it did do, that is the teaching of Paul that the literal sacrifice of Jesus was the atonement for our sins, is prove true the words of Exodus 23:8. Just think about it honestly. Jesus was clear of his mission and it was not the mission in which so many are holding to because they are trusting rather the words of Paul than the knowledge of Torah which Jesus was confirming as truth.
Quote:How is the Torah not our hope? It's not our hope insofar as our flesh cannot fulfill the righteousness of Torah by doing works of Torah... we do not put hope in our deeds but rather in He who can give life! I'm not saying that the Torah is bad, I'm just saying its purpose is to reveal sin, and one does not put hope in the revelation of sin but rather one walks with Yah in a life of purity through his Spirit according to the blueprint of Torah: for me Torah is still extremely important to the faith (don't get me wrong here).
John 5:38-39 that is the words attributed to Jesus and since the Scriptures he taught from was the Tanach rather than the NT which did not exist at the time, it can be made clear what he was speaking of in regard to life did not mean eternal life of the individual Psalm 102:11-28. As for the way that he viewed the righteousness of the People which ensures the Life of the People continues, that is found in Deuteronomy 6:24-25 and Deuteronomy 30:10-18. There is ONLY ONE Who is Eternal and He is the Creator of Life. He established the People to be a light in the world because, as individuals, we ALL have an end. The seed was the promise of life continued. The promise to us as individuals is that if we observe and do that which is commanded, our seed will remain on the earth.
Then again I have to ask you, how is Torah NOT the Word of Hope?
OH ... and what is the complaint so many have that Torah is what brings about knowledge of sin? Is it not understood what is said in Isaiah 53:11,12? It ALSO brings about the knowledge of that which is good. No wonder what is said in Ezekiel 18:20-28 is ignored to rather be replaced by something completely opposite of the greatest hope given in the Word of the People ... even the hope written in the lives of the People of Torah. <!-- s
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Quote:what do you believe regarding the death of Yeshua?
I do not know that Jesus died in the way most believe and in fact, the evidence (to me at least) points toward the conclusion that he did not actually die on the cross. Regardless, I find it horrific that he would have had to endure such ... and then, I find it tragic that so many ignore even worse sufferings (not to undermine his suffering at ALL, mind you) endured of by others of the People simply because they did not have one come after them promising them eternal life, etc. Brings me back again to Exodus 23:7, and then even more .. verse. 8. It has been something that has burdened my mind for so long now ... that so many would rejoice in the sacrifice and suffering of another human being regardless that they claim he was resurrected of the dead. Clearly that part of it as thought of in the literal sense is a lie, no?