05-07-2009, 02:32 AM
Shlama Akhi Mike,
Actually believe it or not I've had many arguments with CoE Bishops, Priests, Deacons as well as Congregants about this topic. In the CoE there are, indeed, Greek Primacists....especially here in the U.S. and in other countries outside of the middle east. When I was giving the Video-Conference presentation on the topic to the parish in Detroit, one of the Shamashe there stood up and openly challenged my views during the Q/A session.
Like any other institution, there are as many opinions as there are people. Unless it's a cult, of course! =) I would be lying to you if I told you every single person in the CoE is an Aramaic primacist. And I would be lying to you if I said Aramaic Primacy was somehow codified by a Council or Synodal Decree.
Most people in the CoE (clergy and laymen) I've met and spoken to are Aramaic primacists, but not all. Both Qashe I've served with at St. John (Qasha Charles Klutz, and Qasha Antwan Latchin) are Aramaic primacists. But they never mention these topics in their sermons, other than an occasional "The Aramaic text says this" kind of statement.
I've found that it's usually the younger clergy here in the West, particularly those who have studied in Western institutions like the Vatican, who are Greek primacists.
There is no debate on this topic within the CoE, simply because it's not really something the Church places emphasis on. We as a body are like any other branch of the Church - primarily interested in preaching the Gospel of our Lord, ministering to the faithful and sick, and feeding the poor. The Great Commission has nothing to do with what language the scriptures were penned in, right? =)
Within the CoE, especially since after the Patriarch Mar Eshai was assassinated, there really has been no emphasis whatsoever on this topic. Personally I have never heard anything from the pulpit, in a sermon, epistle or any other communication about it.
Hard to believe from how much emphasis we place on the topic here, but being an Aramaic primacist is not a requirement to be a card-carrying member of the CoE.
Mike Kar Wrote:(concerning Aramaic Primacy)...There is no dispute about this within the CoE. Yes, on this??
Actually believe it or not I've had many arguments with CoE Bishops, Priests, Deacons as well as Congregants about this topic. In the CoE there are, indeed, Greek Primacists....especially here in the U.S. and in other countries outside of the middle east. When I was giving the Video-Conference presentation on the topic to the parish in Detroit, one of the Shamashe there stood up and openly challenged my views during the Q/A session.
Like any other institution, there are as many opinions as there are people. Unless it's a cult, of course! =) I would be lying to you if I told you every single person in the CoE is an Aramaic primacist. And I would be lying to you if I said Aramaic Primacy was somehow codified by a Council or Synodal Decree.
Most people in the CoE (clergy and laymen) I've met and spoken to are Aramaic primacists, but not all. Both Qashe I've served with at St. John (Qasha Charles Klutz, and Qasha Antwan Latchin) are Aramaic primacists. But they never mention these topics in their sermons, other than an occasional "The Aramaic text says this" kind of statement.
I've found that it's usually the younger clergy here in the West, particularly those who have studied in Western institutions like the Vatican, who are Greek primacists.
There is no debate on this topic within the CoE, simply because it's not really something the Church places emphasis on. We as a body are like any other branch of the Church - primarily interested in preaching the Gospel of our Lord, ministering to the faithful and sick, and feeding the poor. The Great Commission has nothing to do with what language the scriptures were penned in, right? =)
Within the CoE, especially since after the Patriarch Mar Eshai was assassinated, there really has been no emphasis whatsoever on this topic. Personally I have never heard anything from the pulpit, in a sermon, epistle or any other communication about it.
Hard to believe from how much emphasis we place on the topic here, but being an Aramaic primacist is not a requirement to be a card-carrying member of the CoE.
+Shamasha Paul bar-Shimun de'Beth-Younan
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