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Three Chapters, Two Statements and One Ex-bishop's old views
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enarxe Wrote:That's exactly why I think this title (theotokos) is inappropriate. I think it leads to putting the Blessed Miriam to a position of a godess. I might be overreacting but it is the practice I have seen too many times.

Yes, it is prone to being misunderstood. And again, it's incomplete....and tells only part of the story.

enarxe Wrote:As for the will - I think that part from Bawai the Great says about the same (one) will of God the Father and God the Son, not necessarily about one (the same) will of human and divine natures of Messiah.

I agree absolutely. I read it to mean the unity of will among the Qnume of the "Trinity."

enarxe Wrote:What have we got written in the Gospels ?

John 4:34 My food is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

When Yeshu'a says "I" or "my" is it the human or divine "I" ? Both at once?

And when Our Lord says "my will", is it the human will or divine will? Both at once? Or there is only one?

I think it is human (see Luke above) and that human will is in perfect union (consensus) with the divine, so effectively there is one, as in a loving husband and wife relationship, to give an imperfect example.

Mar Narsai's poem dealt with this ... remember that one? I've got to find the link to it....
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Re: Three Chapters, Two Statements and One Ex-bishop's old views - by Paul Younan - 04-09-2009, 09:59 PM

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