04-09-2009, 08:52 PM
Paul Younan Wrote:After all, Maryam did not give birth to a god, like Pharaoh's mother. <!-- sarcasm: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sarcasm.gif" alt="
That's exactly why I think this title (theotokos) is inappropriate. I think it leads to putting the Blessed Miriam to a position of a godess. I might be overreacting but it is the practice I have seen too many times.
As for the will - I think that part from Bawai the Great says about the same (one) will of God the Father and God the Son, not necessarily about one (the same) will of human and divine natures of Messiah. Although there might be one, it is not the point of that statement. Or is it? "One is the Power, One the Majesty, One the Will and One the Glory, Father, Son and Holy Spirit forever: Amen (Mar Bawai the Great)"
What have we got written in the Gospels ?
John 4:34 My food is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
When Yeshu'a says "I" or "my" is it the human or divine "I" ? Both at once?
And when Our Lord says "my will", is it the human will or divine will? Both at once? Or there is only one?
I think it is human (see Luke above) and that human will is in perfect union (consensus) with the divine, so effectively there is one, as in a loving husband and wife relationship, to give an imperfect example.
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Rafa, I admit that this knowledge is way to high for me and I might be wrong but I still try to share how I understand it. Will be glad to listen more to the expositions from CoE members.