01-01-2009, 09:42 AM
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Thanks for your response above, I'll chew on it a bit....
So, would any or all of the Messianic groups active today believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still given by God and to be a part of the believer's life and in the gatherings of believers...not just one or two, but all the gifts mentioned in the NT. I wonder how much of this is present or not present and if it is allowed or forbidden.
And speaking of Y'Shua as being more than a Man.... After reading some of Mr. Bauscher's translations, (which I don't say is of no use) I see that it shows that Y'shua is revealed as YHWH or Mar-Ya...which I have always understood as being God, The Father of Y'shua His Son.
If his translation is right about this, then it would seem that God, The Father has never given us His proper name and that it was The Son of God who spoke to Moses on the Mount at Sinai.
And Y'shua seems to always call Him Father and instructed us to call on Him that way as well when we prayed.
I also read once from Justin Martyr I believe, that the Father has no name, so I wonder if this is right. I know I am wandering off here from the above question, which is my main concern...but it is a biggy if this is true that the Aramaic makes this plain....
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Thanks for your response above, I'll chew on it a bit....
So, would any or all of the Messianic groups active today believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still given by God and to be a part of the believer's life and in the gatherings of believers...not just one or two, but all the gifts mentioned in the NT. I wonder how much of this is present or not present and if it is allowed or forbidden.
And speaking of Y'Shua as being more than a Man.... After reading some of Mr. Bauscher's translations, (which I don't say is of no use) I see that it shows that Y'shua is revealed as YHWH or Mar-Ya...which I have always understood as being God, The Father of Y'shua His Son.
If his translation is right about this, then it would seem that God, The Father has never given us His proper name and that it was The Son of God who spoke to Moses on the Mount at Sinai.
And Y'shua seems to always call Him Father and instructed us to call on Him that way as well when we prayed.
I also read once from Justin Martyr I believe, that the Father has no name, so I wonder if this is right. I know I am wandering off here from the above question, which is my main concern...but it is a biggy if this is true that the Aramaic makes this plain....
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