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Debunking another Trimmism
#61
abudar2000 Wrote:Shlomo oh Paul,

Here's a file that I created to compare the Oldest Semitic inscription, and the current Syriac-Aramaic. This oldest inscription isn't in Aramaic, it's in Canaanite (i.e Phoenician) a dialect of Aramaic, and the mother of Hebrew.

Paul can you comment on the grammar structure and similarities of this dialect and Aramaic?

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poosh bashlomo,
keefa-moroon

It's amazing that Aramaic has changed less in the last 3,000 years than English has changed since Shakespeare!
+Shamasha Paul bar-Shimun de'Beth-Younan
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#62
shlomo oh Paul,

Paul Younan Wrote:It's amazing that Aramaic has changed less in the last 3,000 years than English has changed since Shakespeare!

My point exactly, and that's why we know that the Old Syriac readings are inferior! <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

poosh bashlomo,
keefa-moroon
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#63
Paul Younan Wrote:We don't do things in the East that way. Thank God they didn't have the same freedom to revise as the Greeks did with their manuscripts. Anyone who even tried would have had their bowels ripped out and roasted for dinner. Semites do not alter their scriptures. Try and revise a Tanakh or a Koran.....and see how far you get.

You know originally. Any commentaries on Tanakh were written on Aramaic, because they didn't want anyone to think they were adding to the word of God, by writting their thoughts in Hebrew and some simple person thinking it was part of the text.

There's more support for what you say Paul. The Mishneh Torah which was kept in the hands of western Jews who lived in the european lands, thought they could make the text 'clearer' than the original. So there are hundreds of thousands of variations, while the yemenite Jews did their utmost to perserve the original, so there are hardly any scribal errors in their manuscripts. The european editions are so badly edited that you get the opposite message from their version than you would from the original. Things that are forbidden are permitted and vice visa.

I say the westerners have an awful lot to learn from the easterners.
To learn self restraint and discipline.
To stop playing silly games with 'out there' theories and thoughts.
To learn to remain content with the stable truth which has been passed down from the elders.

And oh yeah. The easterns actually know the Bible in the original language. Perhaps a little humility is in order on the part of the westerns?

I'm come to develop a profound respect for the semites.
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#64
Paul Younan Wrote:Shlama Akhi Dave,

Part of the reason why I get so worked up over this is because the people eventually get turned off by him (to their credit) and somehow wind up here.....and I have to clean-up, so to speak.

It'll happen again, too. It might take a few days, weeks or months....but somebody will eventually come along again and ask me what I think about Trimm. (just peruse the archived forum and you'll see what I'm talking about.)

I am doomed for the rest of my life to clean up. I guess the sooner I accept my fate, the better.

You could also make a pamphlet, "The truth Trimm never told you." And put it up somewhere easy to access, so that ex-trimmites that breeze in will see it and leave you alone with all their repetitive questions. Or you could ask some others to do it for you.

There's just way too much wrong with that man. His personal misconduct, his arrogant dishonest theology. And it isn't slander to say so. It's a fact and people need to be aware of that so they can avoid him.

I know lots of Messianics who don't disrespect the honest and sincere Christians out there, unlike him. What a jerk! The way he talks about Christians, like he has the right to talk like that when he lives the way he does!

I need to calm down now. Sorry.
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#65
Paul Younan Wrote:What exactly is a professional bible scholar - and why does his/her opinion matter to you? I know of plenty of professional "biblical scholars" who claim that Jesus didn't exist. Or that he married Mary Magdelene. Some even claim he went off to America and preached to the "lost tribes" there.

The imbeciles cannot even agree amongst themselves. You act as if there is any credibility in what they say. Who cares?

Also, it sounds like a person has to be western in order to qualify as a professional biblical scholar to you.

I don't know whether or not people believe in Creationism here or not. But the same argument is used to promote Evolution against Creationism.
Namely, that the vast majority of scientists believe in Evolution, therefore you should trust them and ignore the minority that disagrees.

I think people should look at the evidence for themselves and decide, but then what do I know, I haven't been told what to think in a godless western university!
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