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Qnoma?...definition
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Akha Paul and Andrew,

You both admit that your theologies govern your understanding of "qnoma". I don't see your position as objective and cannot see any evidence for your position.

Brock's position is to leave the word untranslated because there is no synonym for it; it is an untranslatable. That sounds like nonsense to me. God's word is for the whole world to hear. He would not use words that no one can understand; neither of you has convinced me that you know what it means; one definition Paul gave is "individuated nature"; that is essentially the English definition of "self". Rob wrote that qnoma is "member of a taxonomic class"; Paul responded , "That is the best English definition I've seen yet." In Biology, a member of a taxonomic class is an "organism".
I don't know that non -biological taxonomic classes exist.I'm sure there are no developed charts for any such classes.
Bottom line of all this is that this becomes such an exercise in esoterica that nobody understands it or is edified by it. Like "Miltha", we lose a precious description and understanding of The Son of God as LOGOS ,"The WORD" ,to the ether of some nebulous , untranslatable "Miltha" .
Now it is "Qnoma" that no one can translate. This kind of club mentality has no limits; the "unknowable" word list will grow.
All this smacks of Gnosticism to me.

I do not believe my Lord ever intended his disciples to evince an unapproachable elitism that claims to know certain esoteric words or doctrines that unlock the secrets of the universe.

We are children of God by faith which works by love; "knowledge puffs up; love builds up".
"The letter killeth; The Spirit gives life".

"I thank Thee Father, LORD of heaven and earth, that Thou hast hidden these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes; Amen, Father, for so it seemed good in Thy sight."

Scholarship is wonderful, if it be meek and humble of heart, and is filled with faith and the guidance of The Holy Spirit, and I will add- good sense.

Luke 11:17 has nothing to do with "a personality of a house", as you imply, Andrew. I don't even know why you would use the word "personality" in conjunction with "qnoma", if it has nothing to do with "person", according to your position.

The parallel passages in Matthew and Mark use "napsa" in place of "qnoma". This is Aramaic usage that shows plainly that the words are interchangeable in the mind of the Holy Spirit and of The Christ.
That is all the evidence I need.And last I checked, God was not a westerner.

Why do we make simple things so complicated ?


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Qnoma?...definition - by judge - 03-31-2004, 09:42 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 03-31-2004, 10:59 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-02-2004, 10:07 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-02-2004, 11:05 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-03-2004, 05:18 PM
Qnoma definition - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 04-03-2004, 11:04 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-04-2004, 01:08 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-04-2004, 03:09 AM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 04-04-2004, 04:08 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-04-2004, 05:32 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-04-2004, 08:35 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-05-2004, 03:08 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-05-2004, 03:20 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-05-2004, 03:35 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-05-2004, 04:57 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-05-2004, 05:20 PM
UNIVERSAL COGNATES? - by nashama - 04-05-2004, 05:39 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-05-2004, 07:27 PM
[No subject] - by judge - 04-05-2004, 10:54 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 12:17 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 12:44 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 01:15 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 01:23 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-06-2004, 01:33 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 02:29 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 02:39 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 03:31 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-06-2004, 07:47 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 07:59 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-06-2004, 01:08 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 01:46 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-06-2004, 03:56 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 04:07 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 04:48 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 05:17 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 05:20 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 05:28 PM
Re: Qnoma?...definition - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 05:42 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 09:00 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 09:08 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-06-2004, 09:59 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-06-2004, 10:21 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 04-07-2004, 12:15 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-07-2004, 01:52 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-07-2004, 02:20 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-07-2004, 02:48 AM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-07-2004, 04:10 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-08-2004, 08:22 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-08-2004, 02:39 PM
[No subject] - by abudar2000 - 04-08-2004, 05:32 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-09-2004, 12:39 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-09-2004, 04:41 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-09-2004, 03:30 PM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-10-2004, 02:35 AM
Re: Qnoma?...definition - by Paul Younan - 04-10-2004, 05:01 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-10-2004, 11:54 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-10-2004, 02:42 PM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-11-2004, 03:01 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-11-2004, 03:42 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-11-2004, 03:46 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 04-11-2004, 04:32 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-11-2004, 05:13 AM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-11-2004, 05:32 AM
Re: Qnoma?...definition - by Paul Younan - 04-11-2004, 02:25 PM
Qnoma?...definition - by george - 04-11-2004, 04:14 PM

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