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help Paul finish the work rather than these games
#1
With all you guys and your freakin aramaic knowledge, why don't you ask Paul what sections he needs help with so the work can be finished!?!?!? Start posting the sections that are to be done yet so Paul and you guys can critique them together.

This work can be more of a blessing by GOD than you know. You got something here that can be rightfully offered to help people understand better, yet you wanna get on here and debate instead, or throw other subjects up that distract from the truth of this.

I can't believe how much running around and people throwing out all these aramaic word plays and blah blah blah, yet no one asks Paul if he needs help finishing the work!?!?!
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#2
Your attitude is rather annoying and disappointing. Word plays and other linguistic proofs are important, as they show superiority of Aramaic over Greek. Christian apologetics and doctrine are important, if we can't think on these things, what use is the Bible, no matter what version we have? Other ventures such as gbausc and the codes are also important, trying to prove scientifically that the Bible is non-human.

As for helping Paul, you go too far. Such arrogance really annoys me. One who helps Paul enormously is Larry Kelsey, he seems to be the main editor and critique of Paul's work. As for me, even I have been honoured by being asked by Paul to compile the best linguistic proofs - something I was already considering doing during my "split word" phase...

What good is the Peshitta if we are not allowed to use it?

I can't believe you can call yourself a Christian when you treat others so, especially Christians. Judgemental little fellow aren't ya?
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#3
You think I'm being annoying, heh. You can't help Paul with this, but you sure like to rant about the aramaic over the greek in your little articles you so joyfully submit. That's the disapointing part.

Judgemental huh?

If you know how to read aramaic, then ask Paul what section you could be working on and do it. Let Paul and the others go over it. What good is your so called aramaic proofs when the translation is not even finished on here yet? Larry is always there to help, along with Craig and others when Paul submits a section, then why dont all of you guys actually do sections that would finish this. This is Paul's offering (as he has explained to me) but would accept help on it, if anyone would actually ask him?!?!

Do something productive instead of this theology and code crap that some are getting caught up in on here. Make a difference for Paul rather than shooting questions out there and then argueing and upsetting others.

God I wish I had some of the ability you guys have in this language, then I would lead by example. I'm sure Paul would love it.
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#4
Hey guys, I'd love to get help with the actual translation part - but ultimately this is my responsiblity to do alone, if I have to. I already get plenty of help in the other areas, especially in the editing and proof-readings that Akhan Larry and others do. I'm very appreciative of what help I do get. Ultimately, this work is my offering and I have to move forward inch by inch until I get done with it. Besides, I can see myself continuously re-editing and correcting the work until I'm in the grave. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->
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#5
You have a plethora of individuals who read and write aramaic here Paul. If they could get beyond themselves and their articles/books, then GOD's word could be offered to everyone in english.

As it stands, I see it only being offered to those who read this language, yet the Greek rules and people bother to wonder why.

Not to encite a riot here Paul, but these folks are unproductive. They could be helping you get this finished so it could be offered to the masses and actually compete with the greek.

I dont see how folks can promote this when they will not lift their hand to help you Paul, especially when they are able to read and write this language.
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#6
I do think that it is more important to be concerned with the understanding of the Aramaic Pshitta [which by the way includes something called the Old Testament too in case anyone forgot] rather than simply seeking to undermine the Greek language. This position reeks of hypocrisy don't you reckon? Even if Aramaic is 'prime', we don't need to keep abusing Greek do we? What benefit does that bring?
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#7
I cannot believe you just called theology "crap"...

Think logically now. If you have a false Bible, then there is no point of using it to find the true doctrine, right?

Conversely, if you don't intend to find true doctrine, what is the point of obtaining the true Bible?

The two must be done simultaneously.

The same goes with the superiority over Greek. What is the point of studying the Peshitta if there is no proof of its superiority over the Greek? Again they must be done simultaneously.

And if you still have trouble coming to grips with our use of the "general discussion forum" for general discussion, then perhaps you should go and help Paul with the translation.
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#8
Chris,

To me, theology is crap. It's no longer a guess with me, i know that i know that i know, part of the faith given by The Lord within. The words speak to my soul and become alive by the quickening of The Holy Spirit. So there is no need to discuss it and debate between the aramaic and greek with me, The Lord showed me how the greek is a translation off of a semetic original, then folks changed the translation in parts to agree with their ideas. I have no need to discuss it, it's easy for me to see it's faults, yet it reigns to this day.

My concerns are strickly in the translation that Paul is completing. Of the bibles out there sold to our brothers and sisters who follow the call of The Almighty, I would say 98% are Greek based. I don't need to expound on the faults of that.

I would like an aramaic based bible. So my concerns are over the translation and my prayers are towards Paul in the fulfillment of this. The talk, talk, talk, that theology promotes is of no use to me and upsets me to no end, since it only leads to distraction and arguements.

The productivity that this theology disturbs is great.
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#9
If there is no need to discuss theology and Aramaic proof with you, then why don't you hold your tongue and let the others speak and listen? Is everything about you? I can imagine you and Apostle Paul preaching to the gentiles, and then as he talks, you say "I don't need to hear all this crap, I already know it all!"

""I have no need to discuss ""

Then don't. Keep your mouth shut and let the rest discuss peacefully.

""My concerns are strickly in the translation that Paul is completing""

Then I suggest you go and help Paul with his translation.

I once again ask you to stay away from threads you do not want anything to do with, as you are providing much animosity. If you want to focus on certain forums, then do that, leave the rest in peace. It's not all about you and what you need, and what you want.
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#10
And I'll tell you something little man; I do help Paul with this translation. And whenever you get off your behind and finally receive The Spirit inside, then let's see if you can keep up with me. I have no kids, or wife, so I'm able to set aside 16 hours of prayer in the Spirit a day for Paul to help him with the translation. It's not a problem.

If you wanna post topics that stir up The Holy Spirit inside me, things that disclude Him from the very start of this, then stand by and deal with it. Your under conviction about it, and He is the one convicting you.

It's not about me, but it's certainly way beyond you. You have no idea whatsoever of the plans that GOD has with this upon it's completion, and how He is working through Paul at the moment to see this through.
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#11
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#12
Matthew 12:25, Mark 3:25, Luke 11:17... :-)

C'mon guys. We're all akke here, so don't make anyone have to play big brother and beat ya both up. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

Aloho `amokoon malzon-reeshe, :-)
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#13
Nice verses Akhi Steve, but you conveniently left out the best verses from the Book of Dave!

Dave 12:13 - And lo, lest ye not have the gift of tongues, the Holy Spirit have ye not.

Dave 14:2,3 - Verily, I say, do not spend any time like the Bereans in searching for Biblical doctrine. You should know it already! Rather, translate the Peshitta.

Dave 31:15,16 - Come thee hither and tarriest not. If thou dost not believe in the trinity, and dabbleth in Biblical codes, and seekest for Aramaic primacy proof, thou dost incur my wrath.

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#14
drmlanc Wrote:Nice verses Akhi Steve, but you conveniently left out the best verses from the Book of Dave!

Dave 12:13 - And lo, lest ye not have the gift of tongues, the Holy Spirit have ye not.

Dave 14:2,3 - Verily, I say, do not spend any time like the Bereans in searching for Biblical doctrine. You should know it already! Rather, translate the Peshitta.

Dave 31:15,16 - Come thee hither and tarriest not. If thou dost not believe in the trinity, and dabbleth in Biblical codes, and seekest for Aramaic primacy proof, thou dost incur my wrath.

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Shlomo,
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#15
I feel your heart Chris. The Lord has a hold on me something fierce right now, in prayer. There are good things coming, major strongholds are being broken.

This site can be a major player in change, something we have all been wanting and waiting for. It's honesty from the start has been steadfast.

I wish you could feel how The Spirit takes ahold of a person in prayer like this Chris, it's a major strengthening, and a major boldness, you just dont have any room to play around in moments like this. Such blessings within also. My prayers will go out to you. I want you to know this also, I want you to see the spiritual imprint the word has. More than that, I want you to have a close relationship with The Almighty.

Being caught up in The Spirit is amazing!
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