10-05-2003, 10:16 PM
Most likely Matthew gives Joseph's and Luke, Mary's geneaology. Evidences:
a.This theory seems supported by several early Christian writers -
Origen, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Athanasius, and Justin Martyr
b.It is indirectly confirmed by Jewish tradition. Lightfoot cites from the Talmudic writers concerning the pains of hell, the statement that Mary the daughter of Heli was seen in the infernal regions, suffering horrid tortures. This statement illustrates, not only the bitter animosity of the Jews towards the Christian religion, but also the fact that, according to received Jewish tradition, Mary was the daughter of Heli; hence, that is her genealogy in Luke
c.This theory shows us in what way Christ was the "Son of David." If Mary was the daughter of Heli, then Jesus was strictly a descendant of David, not only legally, through is reputed father, but actually, by direct personal descent, through his mother. Jews even today inherit their Jewishness through their mother. If your mother isn't Jewish, neither are you. So biologically, the Son of God had to be born of a Jewish woman to be considered a Jew.
d.This theory affords a very simple explanation of the whole matter. Mary, since she had no brothers, was an heiress; therefore her husband, according to Jewish law, was reckoned among her father's family, as his son. So Joseph was that actual son of Jacob, and the legal son of Heli.
From the same place:
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I feel that your taking a word out of context in this case Paul. If then the word says what it says, then it is wrong, and I know you guys don't want to hear that, but let truth be the guide.
a.This theory seems supported by several early Christian writers -
Origen, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Athanasius, and Justin Martyr
b.It is indirectly confirmed by Jewish tradition. Lightfoot cites from the Talmudic writers concerning the pains of hell, the statement that Mary the daughter of Heli was seen in the infernal regions, suffering horrid tortures. This statement illustrates, not only the bitter animosity of the Jews towards the Christian religion, but also the fact that, according to received Jewish tradition, Mary was the daughter of Heli; hence, that is her genealogy in Luke
c.This theory shows us in what way Christ was the "Son of David." If Mary was the daughter of Heli, then Jesus was strictly a descendant of David, not only legally, through is reputed father, but actually, by direct personal descent, through his mother. Jews even today inherit their Jewishness through their mother. If your mother isn't Jewish, neither are you. So biologically, the Son of God had to be born of a Jewish woman to be considered a Jew.
d.This theory affords a very simple explanation of the whole matter. Mary, since she had no brothers, was an heiress; therefore her husband, according to Jewish law, was reckoned among her father's family, as his son. So Joseph was that actual son of Jacob, and the legal son of Heli.
From the same place:
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I feel that your taking a word out of context in this case Paul. If then the word says what it says, then it is wrong, and I know you guys don't want to hear that, but let truth be the guide.