04-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Shlama Akhi Dave,
Firstly, "Burkate" is spelled with a Kaph, not a Khet! <!-- s:crazy: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/crazy.gif" alt=":crazy:" title="Crazy" /><!-- s:crazy: --> Secondly, you have no place telling anyone what Qnoma means if you can't even spell an Aramaic word properly!
Thirdly, it does not come as that big of a surprise to me that you've been rejected by several churches. No Orthodox Christian would tolerate your Eutychian sympathies. This heresy is condemned by all churches that I know of (including the CoE, SOC and RCC.)
My friend, you have a brilliant mind for mathematics and I remain a devoted fan of your research, despite your unorthodox views on the Incarnation of the Word of God.
You stated that the "Incarnation means that God became man" - that's pure heresy, condemned at Chalcedon and other synods in the Eastern Church as well. This matter was settled a long time ago.
The Incarnation does NOT mean that God changed into anything. God remained God, and simply took the form of a servant by taking a temple of humanity from Mary. His Divinity dwelled within the humanity with which He clothed Himself.
It is this humanity that was tempted in the wilderness, that urinated, that defecated, that ate food, that drank water, that bled on the Cross and that lay dead in the tomb for three days and three nights. God was not involved in any of those things. God is impassible, eternal and in need of none of those things.
You, sir, worship a "god-man" in the Greek pagan tradition. Orthodox Christianity worships a "God and Man" - there is a BIG difference between the two.
That is the Orthodox definition of the Incarnation - anything else is heresy (and should be kicked out of any church!)
Finally, you ask about atonement. If Meshikha wasn't fully human just as you are fully human, the sacrificial act was worthless and you still remain in your sin. If Meshikha's humanity was "divine" (according to you), then it is not your humanity that was sacrificed, but some freak Frankenstein creature. And therefore you are still lost.
Firstly, "Burkate" is spelled with a Kaph, not a Khet! <!-- s:crazy: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/crazy.gif" alt=":crazy:" title="Crazy" /><!-- s:crazy: --> Secondly, you have no place telling anyone what Qnoma means if you can't even spell an Aramaic word properly!
Thirdly, it does not come as that big of a surprise to me that you've been rejected by several churches. No Orthodox Christian would tolerate your Eutychian sympathies. This heresy is condemned by all churches that I know of (including the CoE, SOC and RCC.)
My friend, you have a brilliant mind for mathematics and I remain a devoted fan of your research, despite your unorthodox views on the Incarnation of the Word of God.
You stated that the "Incarnation means that God became man" - that's pure heresy, condemned at Chalcedon and other synods in the Eastern Church as well. This matter was settled a long time ago.
The Incarnation does NOT mean that God changed into anything. God remained God, and simply took the form of a servant by taking a temple of humanity from Mary. His Divinity dwelled within the humanity with which He clothed Himself.
It is this humanity that was tempted in the wilderness, that urinated, that defecated, that ate food, that drank water, that bled on the Cross and that lay dead in the tomb for three days and three nights. God was not involved in any of those things. God is impassible, eternal and in need of none of those things.
You, sir, worship a "god-man" in the Greek pagan tradition. Orthodox Christianity worships a "God and Man" - there is a BIG difference between the two.
That is the Orthodox definition of the Incarnation - anything else is heresy (and should be kicked out of any church!)
Finally, you ask about atonement. If Meshikha wasn't fully human just as you are fully human, the sacrificial act was worthless and you still remain in your sin. If Meshikha's humanity was "divine" (according to you), then it is not your humanity that was sacrificed, but some freak Frankenstein creature. And therefore you are still lost.
+Shamasha Paul bar-Shimun de'Beth-Younan
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