02-13-2020, 12:37 AM
What’s the better rendering for Rev 10:1:
“feet as columns/pillars of fire”?
“legs as columns/pillars of fire”?
Revelation 10:1
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(Etheridge) AND I saw another mighty angel descending from heaven, clothed (with a) cloud, and the bow of the cloud (was) upon his head; and his countenance was as the sun, and his feet as columns of fire.
(KJV) And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet [Greek: podes/πόδες/feet] as pillars of fire:
Revelation 10:1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
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And I saw another Angel who descended from Heaven and he wore a cloud and a rainbow of the sky on his head and his appearance was like the Sun, and his legs like pillars of fire.
4228. pous
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pous: a foot
Original Word: πούς, ποδός, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: pous
Phonetic Spelling: (pooce)
Definition: a foot
Usage: the foot.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a foot
NASB Translation
feet (83), foot (9), under* (1).
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rgl, rglˀ (rḡel, re/iḡlā) n.f. foot; pilgrimage
CPA …; pl. in īn but in Syr. also ān, āṯā in metaphorical senses.
1 foot Com-OA. TAD A4.7R.16 …. the dogs removed the chain from his feet. Dan7:19 …. while it was trampling the remainder with its feet. P Ex3:5 …. untie your shoes from your feet. P Is1:6 …. the sole of the foot [MT ….]. BT Suk 53a(23) … a person’s feet are his surety. They transport him to the place where he is sought (at his death). (a) leg of a table, chair JLAtg, Syr, LJLA. TgO Ex25:26 . P Ex25:26 …. PJ Ex25:26 …. the four corners of the four legs. (a.1) base, bottom Syr. EphPar 1:4.4 …. it touched its [the mountain of Paradise] feet, lowered itself, and retreated. (b) foot (as a measure) Syr. ESRef1ER 52:1 . © in adv. expressions (c.1) … on foot JLAtg, Syr. TgJ Jud4:15 … then Sisera got off of the chariot and turned back on foot. OS MtCur14:13 … they went after him on foot. JulSok 433(213):3 … Shapur arose from his dais and came toward him on foot. (c.2) … at his feet Syr. P Jn20:12 … who were sitting, one at his head and one at his feet .
2 march (a) pilgrimage festival Qumran, Gal, JBA. 1QapGen 12.14 … on the first day of the first festival in the [seventh ??] month. BT Ber 30a(51) … PN and PN2 used to gather ten people on the Sabbath of the pilgrimage, pray the teïfillah, and then go out to the public lecture. (a.1) rigla : a memorial festival of the be rav JBAg. ISGF 90:19, 91:11 . (b) military campaign or movement OfAPer. TAD C2.1 5..11 … on the second march the rebels had assembled.
3 as prep.: because of Gal. PTBer5.a:23[2] … because of him (the Temple) was destroyed, and because of him it will be rebuilt. (a)… ibid. Gal. EchRB[1]89(16) … we trust that it was destroyed because of him and will be rebuilt because of him. (b) … ibid. Gal.
4 a plant name : milk vetch (?) Syr. GalSimp 253:11 .
For the colloquial Babylonian form with metathesis, see s.v. ngr #6. That dialect does regularly distinguish between the original form for "pilgrimage" (a Hebraism!) and the metathetic form for the appendage.
David Robert Palmer, The Revelation of John, part of The Holy Bible, The Ancient Greek Text, alternating verse by verse with A new English translation from the Greek, with translator's footnotes and Greek textual variant footnotes (May 2017)
http://bibletranslation.ws/palmer-translation/
PDF:
http://www.bibletranslation.ws/trans/revwgrk.pdf
170 10:1b The Greek word here, πους, is the word for feet, but in ancient Greek and many other
languages the words for foot or for hand (χειρ) can mean the whole extremity or whole limb.
That is especially true in Revelation, which displays much Aramaic influence. It is far more
appropriate here to speak of a leg being like a column or pillar than a foot being like a column
or pillar.
....
246 13:16b .... An Aramaism is an unusual and rare occurrence, and I think the burden of proof
that it is occurring, is on the one saying it is. That said, I have come to believe that Revelation does
show an Aramaic mind in its author. For example, though even ancient Greek the words for
foot πούς and hand χείρ originally meant the whole limb, not just the foot and hand, this is
most definitely always true in Hebrew and Aramaic. The author of Revelation uses πούς,
“foot” to mean the whole limb, where he says the feet of the angel were like “columns” of fire
Legs are like columns, and feet are not. Therefore similarly, we must conclude that in
Revelation 13:16, with χείρ the author means anywhere on the entire upper right limb, not
just the hand.
“feet as columns/pillars of fire”?
“legs as columns/pillars of fire”?
Revelation 10:1
http://dukhrana.com/peshitta/analyze_ver...ize=125%25
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/10-1.htm
(Etheridge) AND I saw another mighty angel descending from heaven, clothed (with a) cloud, and the bow of the cloud (was) upon his head; and his countenance was as the sun, and his feet as columns of fire.
(KJV) And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet [Greek: podes/πόδες/feet] as pillars of fire:
Revelation 10:1 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
https://biblehub.com/revelation/10-1.htm
And I saw another Angel who descended from Heaven and he wore a cloud and a rainbow of the sky on his head and his appearance was like the Sun, and his legs like pillars of fire.
4228. pous
https://biblehub.com/greek/4228.htm
pous: a foot
Original Word: πούς, ποδός, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: pous
Phonetic Spelling: (pooce)
Definition: a foot
Usage: the foot.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. word
Definition
a foot
NASB Translation
feet (83), foot (9), under* (1).
http://dukhrana.com/lexicon/word.php?adr...ize=125%25
rgl, rglˀ (rḡel, re/iḡlā) n.f. foot; pilgrimage
CPA …; pl. in īn but in Syr. also ān, āṯā in metaphorical senses.
1 foot Com-OA. TAD A4.7R.16 …. the dogs removed the chain from his feet. Dan7:19 …. while it was trampling the remainder with its feet. P Ex3:5 …. untie your shoes from your feet. P Is1:6 …. the sole of the foot [MT ….]. BT Suk 53a(23) … a person’s feet are his surety. They transport him to the place where he is sought (at his death). (a) leg of a table, chair JLAtg, Syr, LJLA. TgO Ex25:26 . P Ex25:26 …. PJ Ex25:26 …. the four corners of the four legs. (a.1) base, bottom Syr. EphPar 1:4.4 …. it touched its [the mountain of Paradise] feet, lowered itself, and retreated. (b) foot (as a measure) Syr. ESRef1ER 52:1 . © in adv. expressions (c.1) … on foot JLAtg, Syr. TgJ Jud4:15 … then Sisera got off of the chariot and turned back on foot. OS MtCur14:13 … they went after him on foot. JulSok 433(213):3 … Shapur arose from his dais and came toward him on foot. (c.2) … at his feet Syr. P Jn20:12 … who were sitting, one at his head and one at his feet .
2 march (a) pilgrimage festival Qumran, Gal, JBA. 1QapGen 12.14 … on the first day of the first festival in the [seventh ??] month. BT Ber 30a(51) … PN and PN2 used to gather ten people on the Sabbath of the pilgrimage, pray the teïfillah, and then go out to the public lecture. (a.1) rigla : a memorial festival of the be rav JBAg. ISGF 90:19, 91:11 . (b) military campaign or movement OfAPer. TAD C2.1 5..11 … on the second march the rebels had assembled.
3 as prep.: because of Gal. PTBer5.a:23[2] … because of him (the Temple) was destroyed, and because of him it will be rebuilt. (a)… ibid. Gal. EchRB[1]89(16) … we trust that it was destroyed because of him and will be rebuilt because of him. (b) … ibid. Gal.
4 a plant name : milk vetch (?) Syr. GalSimp 253:11 .
For the colloquial Babylonian form with metathesis, see s.v. ngr #6. That dialect does regularly distinguish between the original form for "pilgrimage" (a Hebraism!) and the metathetic form for the appendage.
David Robert Palmer, The Revelation of John, part of The Holy Bible, The Ancient Greek Text, alternating verse by verse with A new English translation from the Greek, with translator's footnotes and Greek textual variant footnotes (May 2017)
http://bibletranslation.ws/palmer-translation/
PDF:
http://www.bibletranslation.ws/trans/revwgrk.pdf
170 10:1b The Greek word here, πους, is the word for feet, but in ancient Greek and many other
languages the words for foot or for hand (χειρ) can mean the whole extremity or whole limb.
That is especially true in Revelation, which displays much Aramaic influence. It is far more
appropriate here to speak of a leg being like a column or pillar than a foot being like a column
or pillar.
....
246 13:16b .... An Aramaism is an unusual and rare occurrence, and I think the burden of proof
that it is occurring, is on the one saying it is. That said, I have come to believe that Revelation does
show an Aramaic mind in its author. For example, though even ancient Greek the words for
foot πούς and hand χείρ originally meant the whole limb, not just the foot and hand, this is
most definitely always true in Hebrew and Aramaic. The author of Revelation uses πούς,
“foot” to mean the whole limb, where he says the feet of the angel were like “columns” of fire
Legs are like columns, and feet are not. Therefore similarly, we must conclude that in
Revelation 13:16, with χείρ the author means anywhere on the entire upper right limb, not
just the hand.