09-20-2019, 01:56 AM
What specific verse(s) in Acts 21 leads you to suspect that Greek was Paul's preferred language? (Acts 21:28?)
Paul understood spoken Aramaic, and spoke Aramaic; Jesus selected Aramaic to speak to Paul with:
From
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...=47&end=73
Acts 21:40 (NIV) After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic:
Acts 22:2 When they heard him speak to them in Aramaic, they became very quiet. Then Paul said:
Acts 26:14 We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’
Paul used an Aramaic phrase at the end of one of his letters:
1 Cor 16:22 (HCSB)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=HCSB
If anyone does not love the Lord, a curse be on him. Marana tha that is, Lord, come![a]
a: Or Maran atha (an Aram expression transliterated into Gk) = Our Lord has come!
The Mary mentioned here spoke Aramaic:
John 20:16 (NIV) Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).
Jesus spoke Aramaic:
From
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...=47&end=73
Matthew 27:46 (TPT) And at three o’clock Jesus shouted with a mighty voice in Aramaic, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”—that is, “My God, My God, why have you deserted me?”
Mark 5:41 He tenderly clasped the child’s hand in his and said to her in Aramaic, “Talitha koum,” which means, “Little girl, wake up from the sleep of death.”
Mark 7:34 Then he gazed into heaven, sighed deeply, and spoke to the man’s ears and tongue, “Ethpathakh,” which is Aramaic for “Open up, now!”
At the time of Jesus' crucifixion, the residents of Jerusalem spoke Aramaic:
Acts 1:18-19 (PHILLIPS)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...n=PHILLIPS
(This man had bought a piece of land with the proceeds of his infamy, but his body swelled up and his intestines burst. This fact became well known to all the residents of Jerusalem so that the piece of land came to be called in their Aramaic language Akeldama, which means “the field of blood”.)
What led you to conclude that Greek was widely spoken among first-century Judeans?
The Antiquities of the Jews, 20.263
Flavius Josephus translated by William Whiston
https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.263/wst, https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.264/wst, https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.265/wst
263 For those of my own nation freely acknowledge that I far exceed them in the learning belonging to the Jews; I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understand the elements of the Greek language, although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness;
264 for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations, and so adorn their discourses with the smoothness of their periods; because they look upon this sort of accomplishment as common, not only to all sorts of free-men, but to as many of the servants as please to learn them. But they give him the testimony of being a wise man who is fully acquainted with our laws, and is able to interpret their meaning;
265 on which account, as there have been many who have done their endeavors with great patience to obtain this learning, there have yet hardly been so many as two or three that have succeeded therein, who were immediately well rewarded for their pains.
Against Apion, 1.50
Flavius Josephus translated by William Whiston
https://lexundria.com/j_ap/1.50/wst
50 Afterward I got leisure at Rome; and when all my materials were prepared for that work, I made use of some persons to assist me in learning the Greek tongue, and by these means I composed the history of those transactions; and I was so well assured of the truth of what I related, that I first of all appealed to those that had the supreme command in that war, Vespasian and Titus, as witnesses for me,
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What leads you to the conclusion that the NT "was originally written in Greek"?
Following Jerusalem's destruction in A.D. 70 and the scattering of the Judean people, which mss. "would have been extremely valuable"? (NT mss. in Greek?)
How do you think Romans 5:7 originally read?
Romans 5:7 (HCSB)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...BNIV%3BTPT
For rarely will someone die for a just person—
though for a good person perhaps someone might even dare to die.
Romans 5:7 (Young's Literal Translation)
for scarcely for a righteous man will any one die,
for for the good man perhaps some one also doth dare to die;
Romans 5:7 (NIV)
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person,
though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die.
Romans 5:7 (The Passion Translation)
Now, who of us would dare to die for the sake of a wicked person?[a]
We can all understand if someone was willing to die for a truly noble person.
a: As translated from the Aramaic. The Greek reads, “Rarely would anyone die for a righteous person.”
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Per Acts 9:29, I concede that Paul spoke Greek.
Do you think Paul thought in: Greek? Latin? Hebrew? Aramaic?
Do you think Paul dictated his letters in: Greek? Latin? Hebrew? Aramaic?
Do you think Acts 9:29 originally said Paul debated: Yehudians who knew Greek? Greeks?
Peshitta verses that contains lexeme 1:1341, http://dukhrana.com
Luke 23:38
(Etheridge) And there was also an inscription which was written over him in Greek and Roman and Hebrew, [Javanoith, Rumoith, Ebroith.] THIS IS THE KING OF THE JIHUDOYEE.
(Murdock) And there was likewise a superscription over him, written in Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
(Lamsa) There was also an inscription which was written over him, in Greek and Roman, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
(KJV) And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
John 19:20
(Etheridge) And this title many of the Jihudoyee read; for nigh to the city was the place where Jeshu was crucified; and the writing was in Hebrew and Greek and Roman.
(Murdock) And many of the Jews read this label; because the place where Jesus was crucified, was near to Jerusalem; and it was written in Hebrew and Greek and Latin.
(Lamsa) And a great many Jews read this tablet, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written in Hebrew and in Greek and in Roman.
(KJV) This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
Acts 9:29
(Etheridge) And he spake in the name of Jeshu with boldness,
and disputed with those Jihudoyee who knew Greek; [Javanith.]
but they were wishful to kill him.
(Murdock) And he spoke openly in the name of Jesus
and disputed with those Jews who understood Greek.
But they wished to kill him:
(Lamsa) And he spoke openly in the name of Jesus,
and debated with the Jews who understood Greek:
but they wanted to kill him.
(KJV) And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus,
and disputed against the Grecians:
but they went about to slay him.
Acts 21:37
(Etheridge) And as they came to enter into the fortress, Paulos himself said to the tribune, May I be permitted to speak to the people ? But he said to him, Javanith knowest thou ?
(Murdock) And when he came near to entering the castle, Paul said to the Chiliarch: Wilt thou permit me to speak with thee ? And he said to him: Dost thou know Greek?
(Lamsa) And as Paul was about to be led into headquarters, he said to the chief captain, May I speak to you? The captain said, Can you speak Greek?
(KJV) And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
Paul understood spoken Aramaic, and spoke Aramaic; Jesus selected Aramaic to speak to Paul with:
From
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...=47&end=73
Acts 21:40 (NIV) After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic:
Acts 22:2 When they heard him speak to them in Aramaic, they became very quiet. Then Paul said:
Acts 26:14 We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’
Paul used an Aramaic phrase at the end of one of his letters:
1 Cor 16:22 (HCSB)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=HCSB
If anyone does not love the Lord, a curse be on him. Marana tha that is, Lord, come![a]
a: Or Maran atha (an Aram expression transliterated into Gk) = Our Lord has come!
The Mary mentioned here spoke Aramaic:
John 20:16 (NIV) Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).
Jesus spoke Aramaic:
From
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...=47&end=73
Matthew 27:46 (TPT) And at three o’clock Jesus shouted with a mighty voice in Aramaic, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”—that is, “My God, My God, why have you deserted me?”
Mark 5:41 He tenderly clasped the child’s hand in his and said to her in Aramaic, “Talitha koum,” which means, “Little girl, wake up from the sleep of death.”
Mark 7:34 Then he gazed into heaven, sighed deeply, and spoke to the man’s ears and tongue, “Ethpathakh,” which is Aramaic for “Open up, now!”
At the time of Jesus' crucifixion, the residents of Jerusalem spoke Aramaic:
Acts 1:18-19 (PHILLIPS)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...n=PHILLIPS
(This man had bought a piece of land with the proceeds of his infamy, but his body swelled up and his intestines burst. This fact became well known to all the residents of Jerusalem so that the piece of land came to be called in their Aramaic language Akeldama, which means “the field of blood”.)
What led you to conclude that Greek was widely spoken among first-century Judeans?
The Antiquities of the Jews, 20.263
Flavius Josephus translated by William Whiston
https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.263/wst, https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.264/wst, https://lexundria.com/j_aj/20.265/wst
263 For those of my own nation freely acknowledge that I far exceed them in the learning belonging to the Jews; I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understand the elements of the Greek language, although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness;
264 for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations, and so adorn their discourses with the smoothness of their periods; because they look upon this sort of accomplishment as common, not only to all sorts of free-men, but to as many of the servants as please to learn them. But they give him the testimony of being a wise man who is fully acquainted with our laws, and is able to interpret their meaning;
265 on which account, as there have been many who have done their endeavors with great patience to obtain this learning, there have yet hardly been so many as two or three that have succeeded therein, who were immediately well rewarded for their pains.
Against Apion, 1.50
Flavius Josephus translated by William Whiston
https://lexundria.com/j_ap/1.50/wst
50 Afterward I got leisure at Rome; and when all my materials were prepared for that work, I made use of some persons to assist me in learning the Greek tongue, and by these means I composed the history of those transactions; and I was so well assured of the truth of what I related, that I first of all appealed to those that had the supreme command in that war, Vespasian and Titus, as witnesses for me,
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What leads you to the conclusion that the NT "was originally written in Greek"?
Following Jerusalem's destruction in A.D. 70 and the scattering of the Judean people, which mss. "would have been extremely valuable"? (NT mss. in Greek?)
How do you think Romans 5:7 originally read?
Romans 5:7 (HCSB)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...BNIV%3BTPT
For rarely will someone die for a just person—
though for a good person perhaps someone might even dare to die.
Romans 5:7 (Young's Literal Translation)
for scarcely for a righteous man will any one die,
for for the good man perhaps some one also doth dare to die;
Romans 5:7 (NIV)
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person,
though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die.
Romans 5:7 (The Passion Translation)
Now, who of us would dare to die for the sake of a wicked person?[a]
We can all understand if someone was willing to die for a truly noble person.
a: As translated from the Aramaic. The Greek reads, “Rarely would anyone die for a righteous person.”
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Per Acts 9:29, I concede that Paul spoke Greek.
Do you think Paul thought in: Greek? Latin? Hebrew? Aramaic?
Do you think Paul dictated his letters in: Greek? Latin? Hebrew? Aramaic?
Do you think Acts 9:29 originally said Paul debated: Yehudians who knew Greek? Greeks?
Peshitta verses that contains lexeme 1:1341, http://dukhrana.com
Luke 23:38
(Etheridge) And there was also an inscription which was written over him in Greek and Roman and Hebrew, [Javanoith, Rumoith, Ebroith.] THIS IS THE KING OF THE JIHUDOYEE.
(Murdock) And there was likewise a superscription over him, written in Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
(Lamsa) There was also an inscription which was written over him, in Greek and Roman, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
(KJV) And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
John 19:20
(Etheridge) And this title many of the Jihudoyee read; for nigh to the city was the place where Jeshu was crucified; and the writing was in Hebrew and Greek and Roman.
(Murdock) And many of the Jews read this label; because the place where Jesus was crucified, was near to Jerusalem; and it was written in Hebrew and Greek and Latin.
(Lamsa) And a great many Jews read this tablet, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written in Hebrew and in Greek and in Roman.
(KJV) This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
Acts 9:29
(Etheridge) And he spake in the name of Jeshu with boldness,
and disputed with those Jihudoyee who knew Greek; [Javanith.]
but they were wishful to kill him.
(Murdock) And he spoke openly in the name of Jesus
and disputed with those Jews who understood Greek.
But they wished to kill him:
(Lamsa) And he spoke openly in the name of Jesus,
and debated with the Jews who understood Greek:
but they wanted to kill him.
(KJV) And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus,
and disputed against the Grecians:
but they went about to slay him.
Acts 21:37
(Etheridge) And as they came to enter into the fortress, Paulos himself said to the tribune, May I be permitted to speak to the people ? But he said to him, Javanith knowest thou ?
(Murdock) And when he came near to entering the castle, Paul said to the Chiliarch: Wilt thou permit me to speak with thee ? And he said to him: Dost thou know Greek?
(Lamsa) And as Paul was about to be led into headquarters, he said to the chief captain, May I speak to you? The captain said, Can you speak Greek?
(KJV) And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?