05-10-2015, 07:14 AM
Here is my questions and their responses.
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Q: Could you please tell me what text was used for the translation of "The Antioch Bible."
For instance, would it be the UBS version? Or was it from certain Manuscripts? And if so, which ones specifically. I couldn't find this information on the website.
A: Thank you for your inquiry about the Antioch Bible. The Syriac Bible published by UBS is drawn from the 1826 Lee edition, while ours is drawn from the 1898 Mosul edition. We prefer the Mosul version because Lee incorporates several readings that aren't seen elsewhere, while the Mosul text is supported in the earliest manuscripts.
In the introduction of each book and in some of the footnotes, the translator will list some of the major differences between the Syriac manuscripts (as well as between Syriac manuscripts and Hebrew/Greek/Latin ones) so that you can compare various readings. I can give you specific manuscript references, but they vary from book to book, so you will have to let me know an example which interests you.
Q: I do have a few verses I would like to ask you about, which I'm very curious about, so that, I might determine which text the Antioch Bible will most align with.
For that test, could you please tell me if these verses below are present in the Antioch Bible's text.
Luke 22:17, 18
John 7:53 - 8:1-11
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 28:29
A: The verses you mentioned are not found in the Peshitta until the 1500's. Different translators for the Antioch Bible Project have taken different approaches to dealing with them: the translator for the Gospels excises them entirely, and just leaves a footnote marking where they would have been (he explains his reasons, and the history behind the verses in the Syriac tradition, in the introduction). The translator for Acts leaves the verses in the main texts, but marks them with a heavy black bar above and below, as well as a footnote detailing when they entered the Peshitta.|
Q: And further, can you please tell me how these three verses below read in the Antioch Bible's text.
Acts 20:28
Hebrews 2:9
Hebrews 2:16
A: Unfortunately, Hebrews has not been published yet. However, I can give you Acts 20:28; it reads:
"Watch out, therefore, for yourselves and for the whole flock, in
which the Holy Spirit has raised you up to be overseers[1] so that you
might shepherd the church of God which he obtained with his blood."
Q: What manuscript was used for the Acts 20:28 reading? The date and place of origin of the manuscript as well if you know. I also wanted to ask you if there might by a digital edition (PDF or APP) of The Antioch Bible available for download.
A: I'm not sure offhand. I do know that it is based on several early (pre-10th c.) manuscripts, but beyond that I couldn't say.
Would you be interested in a subscription to the Antioch Bible? It sounds like you have some ideas you want to dig deeper into, and being able to look at the scholarship directly is the best way to do that. If you haven't seen it already, we have information about subscriptions here: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/t-antiochbible.aspx">http://gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/t-antiochbible.aspx</a><!-- m -->
Q: As for the subscription, I wouldn't be able to convince my wife to go into deep debt on our credit card for 30 volumes at 75.00 a piece, which comes to $2,250.00, not including the shipping and taxes for the volumes. Sadly this puts The Antioch Bible out of reach for me, and the vast majority of those who might be interested in having a copy.
And so, I am wondering if there is now or perhaps a planned digital edition of The Antioch Bible in the works, such as in a PDF, Ebook, or Nook form, or maybe an APP for IPhone or Android, or perhaps a software program for the computer, or as an add on to another software platform, such as Logos; anything that might make it affordable to have a copy.
Also, if you could provide any information on the Mosul edition, or a link to such information, I would appreciate it, as I am not acquainted too much with it.
A: I totally understand. If we could price it lower, we would (believe it or not, there is a logic behind our prices, and we don't actually make that much money from the sale).
We did send some of the volumes to Logos, but they cost about the same (see parentheses above).
Your best bet might be to buy individual volumes that you're interested in. If you're curious about Acts, for instance, you could just buy Acts. It would be $150 instead of $75 (plus shipping), but it would save you a lot of money versus the whole set.
As for information about the Mosul edition, let me check with my boss and see if there is a good link where I could direct you. And if there's anything else I can do, please let me know.
Best wishes,
Jeff
Jeffrey Haines
Marketing and Editorial Assistant
Gorgias Press
954 River Road
Piscataway, NJ 08854
Tel +1 732-885-8900
Fax +1 732-885-8908
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To: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:helpdesk@gorgiaspress.com">helpdesk@gorgiaspress.com</a><!-- e -->
Q: Could you please tell me what text was used for the translation of "The Antioch Bible."
For instance, would it be the UBS version? Or was it from certain Manuscripts? And if so, which ones specifically. I couldn't find this information on the website.
A: Thank you for your inquiry about the Antioch Bible. The Syriac Bible published by UBS is drawn from the 1826 Lee edition, while ours is drawn from the 1898 Mosul edition. We prefer the Mosul version because Lee incorporates several readings that aren't seen elsewhere, while the Mosul text is supported in the earliest manuscripts.
In the introduction of each book and in some of the footnotes, the translator will list some of the major differences between the Syriac manuscripts (as well as between Syriac manuscripts and Hebrew/Greek/Latin ones) so that you can compare various readings. I can give you specific manuscript references, but they vary from book to book, so you will have to let me know an example which interests you.
Q: I do have a few verses I would like to ask you about, which I'm very curious about, so that, I might determine which text the Antioch Bible will most align with.
For that test, could you please tell me if these verses below are present in the Antioch Bible's text.
Luke 22:17, 18
John 7:53 - 8:1-11
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 28:29
A: The verses you mentioned are not found in the Peshitta until the 1500's. Different translators for the Antioch Bible Project have taken different approaches to dealing with them: the translator for the Gospels excises them entirely, and just leaves a footnote marking where they would have been (he explains his reasons, and the history behind the verses in the Syriac tradition, in the introduction). The translator for Acts leaves the verses in the main texts, but marks them with a heavy black bar above and below, as well as a footnote detailing when they entered the Peshitta.|
Q: And further, can you please tell me how these three verses below read in the Antioch Bible's text.
Acts 20:28
Hebrews 2:9
Hebrews 2:16
A: Unfortunately, Hebrews has not been published yet. However, I can give you Acts 20:28; it reads:
"Watch out, therefore, for yourselves and for the whole flock, in
which the Holy Spirit has raised you up to be overseers[1] so that you
might shepherd the church of God which he obtained with his blood."
Q: What manuscript was used for the Acts 20:28 reading? The date and place of origin of the manuscript as well if you know. I also wanted to ask you if there might by a digital edition (PDF or APP) of The Antioch Bible available for download.
A: I'm not sure offhand. I do know that it is based on several early (pre-10th c.) manuscripts, but beyond that I couldn't say.
Would you be interested in a subscription to the Antioch Bible? It sounds like you have some ideas you want to dig deeper into, and being able to look at the scholarship directly is the best way to do that. If you haven't seen it already, we have information about subscriptions here: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/t-antiochbible.aspx">http://gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/t-antiochbible.aspx</a><!-- m -->
Q: As for the subscription, I wouldn't be able to convince my wife to go into deep debt on our credit card for 30 volumes at 75.00 a piece, which comes to $2,250.00, not including the shipping and taxes for the volumes. Sadly this puts The Antioch Bible out of reach for me, and the vast majority of those who might be interested in having a copy.
And so, I am wondering if there is now or perhaps a planned digital edition of The Antioch Bible in the works, such as in a PDF, Ebook, or Nook form, or maybe an APP for IPhone or Android, or perhaps a software program for the computer, or as an add on to another software platform, such as Logos; anything that might make it affordable to have a copy.
Also, if you could provide any information on the Mosul edition, or a link to such information, I would appreciate it, as I am not acquainted too much with it.
A: I totally understand. If we could price it lower, we would (believe it or not, there is a logic behind our prices, and we don't actually make that much money from the sale).
We did send some of the volumes to Logos, but they cost about the same (see parentheses above).
Your best bet might be to buy individual volumes that you're interested in. If you're curious about Acts, for instance, you could just buy Acts. It would be $150 instead of $75 (plus shipping), but it would save you a lot of money versus the whole set.
As for information about the Mosul edition, let me check with my boss and see if there is a good link where I could direct you. And if there's anything else I can do, please let me know.
Best wishes,
Jeff
Jeffrey Haines
Marketing and Editorial Assistant
Gorgias Press
954 River Road
Piscataway, NJ 08854
Tel +1 732-885-8900
Fax +1 732-885-8908
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