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The state of the departed
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Aramaic Wrote:Today, much of the law of Moses isn't practiced at all, nor can be, by anyone...even by those who say they "keep Torah", and even the strictest sect of the Jews. And while those who believe in Yeshua say they do, what they really mean is, they keep what they are able to keep of it, and what would apply to them today, under The Better Covenant.

No one today really "keeps Torah", as it existed in the 1st century...or even are able to for that matter, while much of it is no longer valid, since Messiah has made the final sin offering, as The Lamb of God, and fulfilled all the types and shadows.
I disagree. Not one letter or stroke shall pass from the Torah until ALL has been fulfilled. Has sin and death been thrown into the lake of fire? No. We still sin, we still die. Do we no longer say to our neighbour "Know the LORD" because everyone knows the LORD? No, we still evangelize. Has Christ drank the final cup as He sits with us in His Father's kingdom? Nope!

Yes, we are looking towards that new and better covenant, which is being birthed within us (the Kingdom starts from within), but that covenant is yet to manifest itself in reality in it's fullness. And until that time, everything still applies if we are able to keep it within our conditions. Without a temple, of course we cannot keep giving sacrifices (which had nothing to do with removing sin and cleansing us spiritually so we can enter into eternal life), but if there was a temple they would rightfully be given. But as you say, we keep what we can, and if it draws us and others closer to God, deepening our knowledge of Christ (in the sense of KNOWing Him - yada) then we are doing it right. If it's not, then we're doing it wrong. Christians may avoid anything that seems Jewish, but on average they still keep about 2/3 of applicable Torah if they're walking according to the Spirit. But we all still fall short and stumble here and there because we still live in this world, and not in the world to come where Torah will be written on our hearts and we will ACTUALLY never sin again.

But yeah, just my two shekels <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->
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The state of the departed - by Aldred Emmans - 07-22-2014, 04:12 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 07-23-2014, 05:34 AM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aldred Emmans - 08-02-2014, 12:18 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aldred Emmans - 08-02-2014, 12:18 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 08-03-2014, 07:48 AM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aldred Emmans - 08-06-2014, 08:44 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 08-06-2014, 09:22 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aramaic - 08-07-2014, 04:23 AM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 08-07-2014, 01:23 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aramaic - 08-07-2014, 06:34 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Luc Lefebvre - 08-08-2014, 07:18 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 08-08-2014, 11:47 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aldred Emmans - 08-10-2014, 09:48 AM
Re: The state of the departed - by The Texas RAT - 08-10-2014, 01:22 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Luc Lefebvre - 08-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Re: The state of the departed - by Aramaic - 08-11-2014, 03:31 AM

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