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Simple question
#1
Just want to make sure I'm not confused. When Peshitta talks about the Arameans, it is talking about the descendants of Aram, the son of Shem (Gen. 10:23), right?

Shlama,
Brian
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#2
Hi Brian

In Aramaic, there are two different words that are spelled exactly the same in consonants (without vowels present.)

Aramaye (Arameans)
Armaye (Gentiles)

It depends on which word you are looking at.

+Shamasha
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#3
Mind. Blown.

Thank you Akhi. Do you think this was probably a source of confusion for Zorba? I understand both of those words are sometimes mistranslated as "Hellen" which is really inexcusable, but it's probably not that far-fetched to translate Aramaye as "Ethnos" if you were mistaking it for Armaye.

Without the use of vowel notation, is it context alone that identifies which word is intended? Is there some guess work involved?

So much for simple.
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#4
bknight Wrote:Mind. Blown.

Thank you Akhi. Do you think this was probably a source of confusion for Zorba? I understand both of those words are sometimes mistranslated as "Hellen" which is really inexcusable, but it's probably not that far-fetched to translate Aramaye as "Ethnos" if you were mistaking it for Armaye.

Without the use of vowel notation, is it context alone that identifies which word is intended? Is there some guess work involved?

So much for simple.

Hi Brian.

It absolutely was a source of frustration to Zorba. The manuscripts are all over the place. According to most of their manuscripts, there are only Jews and Greeks in the world.

Go forth with this knowledge and investigate. You will be amazed at what you find out about the GNT.

The context (helped by oral tradition) helps to determine the proper interpretation of )-r-m-y-).

+Shamasha
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#5
Gal.3:28
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Opposite is Gentile, not Aramaya as it is thought, probably.
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#6
Not so sure, Akhi. Compare with Colossians 3:11 --

Jew is contrasted with Aramaean, but Greek is contrasted with barbarian.

Shlama.
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#7
bknight Wrote:Not so sure, Akhi. Compare with Colossians 3:11 --

Jew is contrasted with Aramaean, but Greek is contrasted with barbarian.

Shlama.

This verse is clearly listing "opposites" - Jew/Gentile (opposite), Circumcision/Uncircumcision (opposite), Greek/barbarian (opposite), slave/free (opposite), etc.

Note that the GNT loses the parallelism here of opposites. The ANT makes sense, the GNT does not. To make matters worse, not only did they substitute "Greek" for "Gentile", but they also introduced "Scythian" as the "opposite" of "Barbarian", when in fact the reverse was true - Scythians were the epitome of barbarianism.

The GNT has Paul rambling like a fool, the ANT has him making a beautiful statement.

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