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AENT Errors
Luc Lefebvre Wrote:And... I wanted to get your guys' take on an updated, amplified passage. 2 Corinthians 13:5 - "Don't you acknowledge that Y'shua the Mashiyach is in you? And if he is not, you are despised and against Torah."

There is a very lengthy footnote explaining that this is a double simultaneous exploitation of the singular word and root maslaya, a competent synonym for being against namusa/auryata. Elsewhere this same word remains as lawbreakers (i.e. verse 7). I found this to be an interesting and bold statement, although looking into it myself I can see how this translation has come about. Also interesting to note is that in this verse "he is" is taken out of brackets, even though it is added for clarity by Murdock. Hmm...


Shlama,

this is a very unfortunate reading. tho i haven't read the reasons why, i would say going merely on the word-meanings and context that it isn't viable at all. the word means "reject," and needs to be translated in some way that reflects the actual definition. any translation WILL have some degree of bias, even if it is unintended, and hopefully cross-checking by others and editing teams can help to erase as much as possible that might get through. but this is clearly more than bias, in my opinion. this is agenda. translators of the Spirit's Words must actively restrain their desire to exposit within the translation itself, and only render as faithfully as possible what the text actually says. this would have been best left for a footnote, if he really feels it means this -- but it isn't what the translation says.

i share many of Andrew's beliefs about mindfully applying the Torah through the grace offered by M'sheekha, but even still, a translator must operate by this maxim: the text demands our integrity. otherwise, the reader cannot trust the translator to render a faithful translation.


Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
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AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-25-2012, 05:55 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 11-25-2012, 07:57 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-25-2012, 08:04 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-25-2012, 03:17 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2012, 01:40 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 11-26-2012, 03:37 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2012, 05:25 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-26-2012, 03:37 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 11-26-2012, 04:23 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-26-2012, 04:33 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-26-2012, 04:52 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-26-2012, 04:58 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2012, 09:33 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-26-2012, 10:11 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2012, 11:27 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-27-2012, 12:48 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-27-2012, 05:07 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-27-2012, 01:11 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-27-2012, 09:16 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 11-27-2012, 09:56 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2012, 12:16 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 11-28-2012, 02:15 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-28-2012, 02:54 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2012, 04:19 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-28-2012, 04:42 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2012, 11:49 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-29-2012, 04:22 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-29-2012, 11:15 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 11-30-2012, 07:41 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 11-30-2012, 08:22 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 11-30-2012, 02:42 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-30-2012, 10:05 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-01-2012, 01:47 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-01-2012, 02:05 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-01-2012, 02:24 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-01-2012, 02:33 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-01-2012, 04:54 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-01-2012, 02:17 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-01-2012, 04:13 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-02-2012, 02:42 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-02-2012, 03:29 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-02-2012, 06:30 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-02-2012, 07:34 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-02-2012, 08:06 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-02-2012, 08:21 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-02-2012, 05:08 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-03-2012, 12:10 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-03-2012, 02:33 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-03-2012, 02:41 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-03-2012, 02:47 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-03-2012, 04:00 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-03-2012, 06:14 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-04-2012, 12:44 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Charles Wilson - 12-04-2012, 01:40 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Charles Wilson - 12-04-2012, 03:46 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-04-2012, 08:03 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-04-2012, 08:37 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-05-2012, 01:20 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Charles Wilson - 12-05-2012, 01:31 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-05-2012, 01:39 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-05-2012, 02:43 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-05-2012, 03:51 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-05-2012, 03:58 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-05-2012, 04:02 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Charles Wilson - 12-05-2012, 05:01 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-05-2012, 05:19 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Paul Younan - 12-05-2012, 05:41 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Charles Wilson - 12-05-2012, 06:11 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-05-2012, 07:09 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-05-2012, 02:41 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-05-2012, 04:41 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-05-2012, 05:04 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-05-2012, 11:43 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-06-2012, 04:10 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-10-2012, 02:37 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-10-2012, 03:44 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-10-2012, 05:02 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-10-2012, 06:21 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-10-2012, 10:19 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-10-2012, 01:10 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-10-2012, 07:42 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-11-2012, 02:37 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-13-2012, 04:22 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-14-2012, 02:42 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-14-2012, 03:42 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by The Texas RAT - 12-14-2012, 02:30 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-15-2012, 12:51 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-15-2012, 03:44 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-15-2012, 07:21 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-15-2012, 08:24 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-15-2012, 11:20 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-16-2012, 03:47 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Burning one - 12-16-2012, 05:42 AM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-17-2012, 02:24 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Thirdwoe - 12-17-2012, 07:12 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by Luc Lefebvre - 12-17-2012, 07:24 PM
Re: AENT Errors - by ScorpioSniper2 - 12-18-2012, 02:12 AM

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