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tongues vs languages
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Quote:1 Corinthians 13:1 also states
Though in every tongue of men and of angels I spoke, and had not love, I should be as brass which soundeth,
or a cymbal which giveth voice (Etheridge)
that when speaking in a tongue it can be the "tongues of men or of angels" that the believer is speaking via the gift of the holy spirit that each born again one receives.

"Tongues of angels" is often understood by several scholars to be an idiomatic expression for speaking eloquently. George Lamsa also taught this as demonstrated in his book "Idioms in the Bible Explained and a Key to the Original Gospels". I am disposed to agree with the brother who suggested that Rav Shaul is teaching thus: if he speaks eloquently without love, it is the same as a clanging cow bell. OK, so its 'cymbal', but I like the vision of a cow bell. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->

Quote:I have never heard someone who claimed to speak in spiritual tongues condemn those who do not. There may be some who have, but I have never seen it or heard it taught anywhere.


My friend, you may want to reconsider this. In the Pentecostal-Apostolic faith- which their churches are sometimes called "Apostolic Church of God" or "(Suburbia) Apostolic Church"-they have a FOUNDATIONAL doctrinal teaching that someone cannot be saved unless they speak in tongues, and have water baptism in the name of Jesus. Other charismatic circles teach that those who do not have "the baptism of tongues" cannot perform signs, wonders, or miracles without it. Now I do not speak for these faiths, nor would I like too. I only know these things from my many first-hand accounts, which caused me to walk away from Christianity and even Messiah for about 7 years. And even today, it seems I run into these types every time I turn a corner! Therefore, I encourage you to investigate for yourself (take Messiah with you) these claims I make- you will see there are those who call themselves Christians who necessitate requirements for salvation other than Christ.
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tongues vs languages - by Alan G77 - 02-24-2012, 05:26 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 06:38 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-24-2012, 09:50 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 04:44 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-24-2012, 06:00 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 07:22 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-24-2012, 08:18 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 11:04 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-25-2012, 02:28 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2012, 12:00 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-26-2012, 02:46 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2012, 06:23 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-26-2012, 07:06 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-26-2012, 06:12 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Miadhach - 02-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Alan G77 - 02-27-2012, 05:35 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-28-2012, 03:17 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2012, 03:47 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-28-2012, 04:31 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 06-01-2012, 10:23 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Aaron S - 06-02-2012, 12:57 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 07-18-2012, 03:05 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 07-18-2012, 06:49 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 07-24-2012, 07:37 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 07-25-2012, 03:20 AM

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