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tongues vs languages
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Thirdwoe Wrote:God, through His Apostle says that these spirtual languages should not be used in The Church setting, unless it is for the edification of the people present...and must be accompanied with an interpretation given by the Holy Spirit.

"So then (spiritual) languages are established for a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers, but prophecy is not for unbelievers, but for those who believe." 1 Cor 14:22

And even right preaching or teaching, without love, is no good.

"...And if I have prophecy, and I know all mysteries and all knowledge and if I have all faith so that I may remove mountains, and I have no love in me, I would be nothing. And if I should feed everything that I have to the poor, and if I hand over my body to be burned up and I have no love in me, I gain nothing." 1 Cor 13:2-3

I have never heard someone who claimed to speak in spiritual tongues condemn those who do not. There may be some who have, but I have never seen it or heard it taught anywhere.

Shlama,
Chuck


Shlama,

i have heard people who use ecstatic tongues speak down towards those who do not. i've been around those who look at people who do not as "poor" or "second class," basing it on the idea that tongues is the least of the gifts, so if you don't have even the least, you are immature and almost ineffective as a believer. there was some alienation to a degree in one church i attended that wanted people to sing in tongues during worship... leaving out anyone present who did not have that "gift." i spent time in nondenominational charismatic churches who held this view, though a Church of God Pentecostal congregation i attended where i met my bride did not teach this, so it is not a portrait of all who use ecstatic tongues, to be fair.

to me, the best route is to let the person worship as they see fit, and don't use spiritual gifts to determine anyone's status as a believer, or their effectiveness. i would spiritual fruit would be the key determination in a person's walk as to whether they were mature or not. hopefully we can trsut the leading of the Spirit to guide His people appropriately for the specific circumstance and time, and not abuse what He has shown us by forcing it on others.


Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
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tongues vs languages - by Alan G77 - 02-24-2012, 05:26 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 06:38 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-24-2012, 09:50 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 04:44 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-24-2012, 06:00 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 07:22 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-24-2012, 08:18 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2012, 11:04 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-25-2012, 02:28 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2012, 12:00 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-26-2012, 02:46 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2012, 06:23 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Arkady - 02-26-2012, 07:06 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-26-2012, 06:12 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Miadhach - 02-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Alan G77 - 02-27-2012, 05:35 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-28-2012, 03:17 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2012, 03:47 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Burning one - 02-28-2012, 04:31 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 06-01-2012, 10:23 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Aaron S - 06-02-2012, 12:57 AM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 07-18-2012, 03:05 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 07-18-2012, 06:49 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Bradley - 07-24-2012, 07:37 PM
Re: tongues vs languages - by Thirdwoe - 07-25-2012, 03:20 AM

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