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Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity
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Quote:Dear discussers,

let me put up my point of view on the Trinity.

Point of views are not always correct...but sometimes they are.

Quote:I do not place my faith into different "saints" and church "authories" but into the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Comment: When the Church Fathers/Saints, or Church authorities goes against what The Apostles of Christ have taught by God's Holy Spirit through them, then we are not to agree with it.


Quote:My view is Mary is mother of human nature of Jesus and God is father of divine nature of Jesus.

Comment: Though the Divine nature of God was present at the point of conception of The Messiah in the Holy Virgins womb, She was not the generator of that Divinity... rather it was The Holy Spirit of The Father, who overshadowed Her. The Messiah was both Divine and Human at conception, both of The Father and of His Mother, in perfect union.


Quote:Jesus became Messiah (anointed) after the baptismal when the Holy Spirit descended upon him.

Comment: The Holy Spirit was present with The Messiah from the moment of His conception...He having the Spirit of God without measure, as The Scripture teaches. At 12 years old He was blowing the religious leaders minds with the Wisdom that was coming out of Him...in fact He IS the Wisdom of God, personified. Certainly He was prepared to enter His Ministry by The Holy Spirit that day... and the sign was given so that John could know that He was indeed the promised Messiah.


Quote:The Holy Spirit is part of God and proceeds only from God. The Holy Spirit is not individuality.

Comment: The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father, and is given through/by The Son..."I will send you another Comforter". As The Scriptures teach, The Holy Spirit is both The Spirit of The Father & of The Son...The Spirit of God & The Spirit of Jesus. Through/By The Holy Spirit, both The Father & The Son, are resident IN His People/Temple. "We will come unto you, and make our abode with you."


Quote:Nobody in the Scriptures prayed to the Holy Spirit or had conversation with.

Comment: Consider these verses...Acts 16:7 "And when they had come up to Mysia, they attempted to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them." "Acts 8:29 "The Spirit told Philip, "Go to that chariot and stay near it." 1 Peter 1:11 "trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow."


Quote:Jesus is not here but on the right hand of God, in the heaven but the Holy Spirit was send in His place for us.

Comment: The Holy Spirit IS The Spirit of Jesus Christ. He is present with us by His Holy Spirit, which He shares with His Father, His God and our God... Consider these verses....Galatians 4:6 "Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, The Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father." Romans 8:9 "You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ."


Quote:That the Holy Spirit is not different personality from God, we can see that
the Holy Spirit descended on Mary and Jesus was born and is called the Son of God NOT
the Son of the Holy Spirit.

Comment: The Holy Spirit IS The Spirit of GOD,The Father...and Jesus, His Only Begotton Son, has The Holy Spirit without measure...and indeed is His own Spirit. The Holy Spirit IS The Spirit of The Father and The Son. When we have The Holy Spirit dwelling with in us...We have God, The Father & His Son, dwelling within us....we being The Temple of GOD.

Shlama,
Chuck
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Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 06:42 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 07:51 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 11:44 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 01:21 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 01:53 PM
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Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 05:02 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-04-2012, 08:21 AM
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