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Luqa 2:52
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Rafa Wrote:
distazo Wrote:
justalex Wrote:Thank you for your reply however you didn't answer the question... The differences between "favour" and "pleasing" isn't the question but rather how one could become "pleasing" or "gain favour" with oneself??? Of course again, this only applies if you hold that YAHUshuah and marya(h?) are one and the same...

The discussion if Yeshu = YHWH is not directly the same discussion if Yeshu = god (or God)

I believe most Aramaic Scholars would disagree with that assertion. The Assyrian Church of the East already declared that the Messiah is in fact YHWH/God (the human qnuma apart in one person with the Divine Qnuma of the Son- which is YHWH the Most Holy Trinity since none of the Divine Qnume can be taken apart from each other and the most Holy Trinity is one God).

The catholic church also confesses the trinity. I was not aware of specific assyrian differences about the subject, but for trinity, you don't have to have the name YHWH included in the dogma.

The question is simple: If Yeshu was God, how can he gain favor/grace with God?
The answer is in colossians 1:15. Yeshu was -created- firstborn by God. Because he is the son, he also is God, but not the almighty God himself.

At least, this is my understanding of the subject. If anyone thinks otherwise, peace to him/her <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

The question raises: is YHWH THE almighty God, or was Yeshu YHWH himself? I'll leave it to others to comment <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->
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Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-26-2011, 12:36 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-26-2011, 04:00 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Aaron S - 01-26-2011, 05:51 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-27-2011, 12:36 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-27-2011, 05:06 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Jerry - 01-27-2011, 05:51 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-27-2011, 10:50 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-28-2011, 12:36 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-28-2011, 12:42 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-28-2011, 12:44 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-28-2011, 12:54 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Jerry - 01-28-2011, 01:44 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by sean - 01-28-2011, 04:55 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-28-2011, 06:42 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-29-2011, 10:54 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-29-2011, 11:07 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-29-2011, 11:25 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Stephen Silver - 01-30-2011, 11:46 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-30-2011, 05:20 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-30-2011, 05:33 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Stephen Silver - 01-30-2011, 09:32 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-31-2011, 04:39 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-31-2011, 04:43 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Stephen Silver - 01-31-2011, 05:17 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-31-2011, 11:14 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-31-2011, 11:32 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by justalex - 01-31-2011, 11:55 AM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 01-31-2011, 12:49 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Stephen Silver - 01-31-2011, 05:44 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by distazo - 02-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Re: Luqa 2:52 - by Stephen Silver - 02-02-2011, 02:27 AM

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