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Shlama,

While surfing the net I came across this post from a forum and read it, not entirely sure what this posters motive is or what he/she is attempting to say, but was wondering if anyone here could proffer their opinion of what the author of this thread is attempting to say, I humbly thank you in advance.

Shlama wBurkate



Here it is:


While reading on the other I came across this little phrase... I say it's little because it has onl 4 words however, it has a very major meaning...

It can be found in the KEETBAY Ha KADOSH 31 times!!! 31 times people and it always in the TNK referencing YHWH, NEVER in the Beriyth Chadashah in reference to YAHUshuah...

The first time it is seen is in Melekiym Bet 19:22... ( I will use the standard KJV to compare to the Ibriyt scriptures...) but the most exacting usage in my opinion can be found in Yesha`yahu... I suggest a reading of chapters 42 and 43 to get the context, as well as Mishley 8...

For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

KIY ANIY YHWH ELOHEYKhA QeDOSh YISRAEL MOShIYEKhA NAThAThIY KAPeReKhA MITzRAYIM KUSh WUSeBA` ThAChETHEYKhA:

I could stop at this point as here YHWH has already proclaimed that HE is Yisra`EL's MASHIACH, however there are those that would argue that one passage in itself does not make this point a defininate so I continue in order to show this DOES NOT refer to YAHUshuah...

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

ATHEM EDAY NeUM-YHWH WeABeDIY AShER BAChAReThIY LeMA'AN THEDe`UW WeThA'AMIYNUWLIY WeThABIYNUWKIY-ANIYHUW` LePANY LO`-NOTzAREL WeAChARAY LO` YHWH:

ANOKIY ANOKIY YHWH WeEYN MIBALeADAY MOShIYA:

ANOKIY HIGADeThIY WeHOShAeThIY WeHIShEMAeThIY WeEYN BAKEM ZAR WeAThEM ELY NeUM-YHWH WeANIY-EL:

Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...

Now how do we reconcile that this is speaking of YHWH and NOT YAHUshuah??? This is why I suggested reading ch. 42 along with 43 and Mishley 8...

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

HEN ABeDIY EThMAKhA-BOW BeChIYRIY RATzeThAH NAPeShIY NAThAThIY RUWChIY ALAYW MIShePAT LAGOYIM YOTzIY`:

If you have ever read Yesha`yahu, you recognize the above as a prophecy spoken of YAHUshuah... but continue reading to see what YHWH says further about HIS servant...

Here also is where you can go to Mishley 8 to see how scripture always backs up scripture...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

WAEHeYEH ETZeLOW AMOWN WAEHeYEH ShA`AShUIYM YOWM | YOWM MeSAChEQETh LePANAYW BeKAL-ETh:

Just as YHWH says YAHUshuah was HIS "soul's" delight, YAHUshuah declares that He was YHWH's daily delight... reading Mishley 8 shows that YAHUshuah says this was when the foundations of ha eretz was formed...

I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

ANIY YHWH QeRA`ThIYKhA BeTzEDEQ WeACheZEQ BeYADEKhA WeETzAReKhA WeEThENeKhA LIBeRIYTh AM Le`OWR GOYIM:

LIPeQOACh EYNAYIM IWeROTh LeHOTzIY` MIMASeGER ASIYR MIBEYTh KELE` YOShEBEY ChOShEKh:

YAHUshuah was sent as a covenant to HIS people (Yisra`EL) and a light to the Gentiles (goyim)... He was sent to open the eyes of the blind (physically and spiritually), and set the prisoner (captive) free...

I may add more to this as you can draw from the Beriyth Chadashah to shew where YAHUshuah says He came to set the captive free, heal blind eyes and deaf ears... again both physically this was done as well as spiritually...

ShEMA YISRAEL YHWH ELOHEYNU YHWH | EChAD

BARUCh HABA BEShEM YHWH...
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soneroboricua Wrote:Shlama,

While surfing the net I came across this post from a forum and read it, not entirely sure what this posters motive is or what he/she is attempting to say, but was wondering if anyone here could proffer their opinion of what the author of this thread is attempting to say, I humbly thank you in advance.

Shlama wBurkate



Here it is:


While reading on the other I came across this little phrase... I say it's little because it has onl 4 words however, it has a very major meaning...

It can be found in the KEETBAY Ha KADOSH 31 times!!! 31 times people and it always in the TNK referencing YHWH, NEVER in the Beriyth Chadashah in reference to YAHUshuah...

The first time it is seen is in Melekiym Bet 19:22... ( I will use the standard KJV to compare to the Ibriyt scriptures...) but the most exacting usage in my opinion can be found in Yesha`yahu... I suggest a reading of chapters 42 and 43 to get the context, as well as Mishley 8...

For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

KIY ANIY YHWH ELOHEYKhA QeDOSh YISRAEL MOShIYEKhA NAThAThIY KAPeReKhA MITzRAYIM KUSh WUSeBA` ThAChETHEYKhA:

I could stop at this point as here YHWH has already proclaimed that HE is Yisra`EL's MASHIACH, however there are those that would argue that one passage in itself does not make this point a defininate so I continue in order to show this DOES NOT refer to YAHUshuah...

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

ATHEM EDAY NeUM-YHWH WeABeDIY AShER BAChAReThIY LeMA'AN THEDe`UW WeThA'AMIYNUWLIY WeThABIYNUWKIY-ANIYHUW` LePANY LO`-NOTzAREL WeAChARAY LO` YHWH:

ANOKIY ANOKIY YHWH WeEYN MIBALeADAY MOShIYA:

ANOKIY HIGADeThIY WeHOShAeThIY WeHIShEMAeThIY WeEYN BAKEM ZAR WeAThEM ELY NeUM-YHWH WeANIY-EL:

Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...

Now how do we reconcile that this is speaking of YHWH and NOT YAHUshuah??? This is why I suggested reading ch. 42 along with 43 and Mishley 8...

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

HEN ABeDIY EThMAKhA-BOW BeChIYRIY RATzeThAH NAPeShIY NAThAThIY RUWChIY ALAYW MIShePAT LAGOYIM YOTzIY`:

If you have ever read Yesha`yahu, you recognize the above as a prophecy spoken of YAHUshuah... but continue reading to see what YHWH says further about HIS servant...

Here also is where you can go to Mishley 8 to see how scripture always backs up scripture...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

WAEHeYEH ETZeLOW AMOWN WAEHeYEH ShA`AShUIYM YOWM | YOWM MeSAChEQETh LePANAYW BeKAL-ETh:

Just as YHWH says YAHUshuah was HIS "soul's" delight, YAHUshuah declares that He was YHWH's daily delight... reading Mishley 8 shows that YAHUshuah says this was when the foundations of ha eretz was formed...

I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

ANIY YHWH QeRA`ThIYKhA BeTzEDEQ WeACheZEQ BeYADEKhA WeETzAReKhA WeEThENeKhA LIBeRIYTh AM Le`OWR GOYIM:

LIPeQOACh EYNAYIM IWeROTh LeHOTzIY` MIMASeGER ASIYR MIBEYTh KELE` YOShEBEY ChOShEKh:

YAHUshuah was sent as a covenant to HIS people (Yisra`EL) and a light to the Gentiles (goyim)... He was sent to open the eyes of the blind (physically and spiritually), and set the prisoner (captive) free...

I may add more to this as you can draw from the Beriyth Chadashah to shew where YAHUshuah says He came to set the captive free, heal blind eyes and deaf ears... again both physically this was done as well as spiritually...

ShEMA YISRAEL YHWH ELOHEYNU YHWH | EChAD

BARUCh HABA BEShEM YHWH...


ROTFLMLBO... nuff said...

justalex
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soneroboricua Wrote:Shlama,

While surfing the net I came across this post from a forum and read it, not entirely sure what this posters motive is or what he/she is attempting to say, but was wondering if anyone here could proffer their opinion of what the author of this thread is attempting to say, I humbly thank you in advance.

Shlama wBurkate

He is actually saying that YHWH = Yeshu.
There are some references he citated from the Tanakh (OT) where YHWH e.g. says: "Besides me, there is no saviour" While Acts 4:12 says that Yeshu' is the savior for humankind.

Etc.
This is just what he writes imho.
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distazo Wrote:
soneroboricua Wrote:Shlama,

While surfing the net I came across this post from a forum and read it, not entirely sure what this posters motive is or what he/she is attempting to say, but was wondering if anyone here could proffer their opinion of what the author of this thread is attempting to say, I humbly thank you in advance.

Shlama wBurkate

He is actually saying that YHWH = Yeshu.
There are some references he citated from the Tanakh (OT) where YHWH e.g. says: "Besides me, there is no saviour" While Acts 4:12 says that Yeshu' is the savior for humankind.

Etc.
This is just what he writes imho.

I would agree with you based on Acts 4:12 and then reading the author quoting:
Quote:I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
But, because of this reading , the author seems a bit confusing and contradicting imo:
Quote:I could stop at this point as here YHWH has already proclaimed that HE is Yisra`EL's MASHIACH, however there are those that would argue that one passage in itself does not make this point a defininate so I continue in order to show this DOES NOT refer to YAHUshuah...
Peace in knowing Y'shu(Yeshu)/Jesus
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#5
Those 'YAHUshuah' guys in general seem a bit confused.

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distazo Wrote:Those 'YAHUshuah' guys in general seem a bit confused.

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Good info! Thank you very much.
Peace in knowing Y'shu(Yeshu)/Jesus
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distazo Wrote:
soneroboricua Wrote:Shlama,

While surfing the net I came across this post from a forum and read it, not entirely sure what this posters motive is or what he/she is attempting to say, but was wondering if anyone here could proffer their opinion of what the author of this thread is attempting to say, I humbly thank you in advance.

Shlama wBurkate

He is actually saying that YHWH = Yeshu.
There are some references he citated from the Tanakh (OT) where YHWH e.g. says: "Besides me, there is no saviour" While Acts 4:12 says that Yeshu' is the savior for humankind.

Etc.
This is just what he writes imho.


I'm so glad you put that this "imho" on there as that is not supported by scripture at all. Try reading Maaseh Shlichiym 2:16-21 where Kepha quotes nebiy Yo`EL in Yo`EL 2:28-32. Yo`EL certainly did not mean YAHUshuah or Yeshu in your case but ABBA YHWH.

Read the scriptures and find where YAHUshuah said, "In that day you shall ask me nothing. Amein, amein, anything you ask My ABBA, in My name, {HE SHALL GIVE IT TO YOU}." Note the "in my name" not " I " will give it to you but ABBA YHWH, so your statement about people being "confused" is self-applicable for you apparently.

Did Kepha change His mind in 4:12 or was he confused in ch. 2? I am quite sure he knew quite well the prophets' as most Ibriym did/do. Just reading the rest of ch 4 ITSELF shows that things were done "in the name of" YAHUshuah, just as He specified it should be done; the Sanhedrin even told them not to teach, "in the name of". However note that Kepha DID NOT use YAHUshuah's name in verse 19 as he was not talking about YAHUshuah but ABBA YHWH.

These are little things that are missed by those that try to make ABBA YHWH and The Son, one.

And whathell, smh, who would really expect you to say anything other than what your Geppeto says? LOL.

justalex
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whathell Wrote:
distazo Wrote:Those 'YAHUshuah' guys in general seem a bit confused.

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Good info! Thank you very much.

ROTFLMLBO. Yep, then again, there's still the case of that mysterious "h"... LOL...

Remember son, personal "opinions" are nil when compared to the katub, I am happy however that you and your Geppeto have found a home... that road certainly does look wide however... but if it's what you like (shrugs).

justalex
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#9
"ROTFLMLBO. Yep, then again, there's still the case of that mysterious "h"... LOL..."


Please, let's stay on the topic of the thread, as that matter already has it's own forum, thanks.

Diversions such as these are usually done because the debater has nothing to proffer on said subject. Consistency at it's finest I see <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->


Shlama wBurkate

Sonero
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soneroboricua Wrote:"ROTFLMLBO. Yep, then again, there's still the case of that mysterious "h"... LOL..."


Please, let's stay on the topic of the thread, as that matter already has it's own forum, thanks.

Diversions such as these are usually done because the debater has nothing to proffer on said subject. Consistency at it's finest I see <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->


Shlama wBurkate

Sonero

Oh my bad... I was responding to something that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD... ROTFLMLBO... check distazo and your pinocchio son before you even THINK to step my way... LOL... as you KNOW, (or you should) that I don't live by your rules but ONLY by ABBA YHWH's... <!-- s:bomb: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/bomb.gif" alt=":bomb:" title="The Bomb" /><!-- s:bomb: -->

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soneroboricua Wrote:"ROTFLMLBO. Yep, then again, there's still the case of that mysterious "h"... LOL..."


Please, let's stay on the topic of the thread, as that matter already has it's own forum, thanks.

Diversions such as these are usually done because the debater has nothing to proffer on said subject. Consistency at it's finest I see <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->


Shlama wBurkate

Sonero

Is that why you continue to copy threads from other sites sonero, because YOU have NOTHING to say??? Just asking ya know... <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

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#12
May you continue in your "professed" peace, I know I am at total peace with I know, and with that I continue everyday to grow in Mashiyach as I am instructed to.
May one day you come to realize this very thing, because you are truly an angry man.


Shlama wBurkate

Sonero
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#13
IDK, this author's writings seem to be all over the place. A nice quote like this:
Quote:Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...
...which we know clearly occured by the messenger John the Baptism who prepared the way for YHWH, per scripture, and who became known to us in the flesh as "the messenger of the covenant," i.e. Y'shu/Jesus Christ:
Quote:Mal 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
But then, upon examining another quote we find:
Quote:Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...

Now how do we reconcile that this is speaking of YHWH and NOT YAHUshuah??? This is why I suggested reading ch. 42 along with 43 and Mishley 8...

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

...

If you have ever read Yesha`yahu, you recognize the above as a prophecy spoken of YAHUshuah... but continue reading to see what YHWH says further about HIS servant...

Here also is where you can go to Mishley 8 to see how scripture always backs up scripture...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

...

Just as YHWH says YAHUshuah was HIS "soul's" delight, YAHUshuah declares that He was YHWH's daily delight... reading Mishley 8 shows that YAHUshuah says this was when the foundations of ha eretz was formed...
it appears that the author has made the erroneous error of trying to tie Y'shu of:
Quote:Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
to this passage of scripture:
Quote:Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him
Examining more of the passage:
Quote:Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Pro 8:18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
Pro 8:19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
Pro 8:20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
Pro 8:21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him

...clearly shows Y'shu/Jesus is NOT this a factious character called Wisdom. Even more prononunced is the fact that Wisdom is refered to with feminine gender:
Quote:Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Pro 8:3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
Pro 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
Peace in knowing Y'shu(Yeshu)/Jesus
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soneroboricua Wrote:May you continue in your "professed" peace, I know I am at total peace with I know, and with that I continue everyday to grow in Mashiyach as I am instructed to.
May one day you come to realize this very thing, because you are truly an angry man.


Shlama wBurkate

Sonero

ROTFLMLBO... Angry??? MOI??? Now why would I be angry sonero??? You on the other hand must indeed be pretty angry since ALL YOU HAVE is to copy from another site and bring them here in order to what... Justify yourself??? ROTFLMLBO...

You may indeed be growing however stopped growing in anything concerning the katub long ago... and this too you know... but please convince the people here of that... if you can...

justalex
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whathell Wrote:IDK, this author's writings seem to be all over the place. A nice quote like this:
Quote:Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...
...which we know clearly occured by the messenger John the Baptism who prepared the way for YHWH, per scripture, and who became known to us in the flesh as "the messenger of the covenant," i.e. Y'shu/Jesus Christ:
Quote:Mal 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
But then, upon examining another quote we find:
Quote:Here again we have YHWH declaring that HE is MASHIACH of Yisra`EL and HE sends HIS servant to be a witness that Yisra`EL would believe that HE is ELOHEYKhA and there is NO OTHER beside HIM...

Now how do we reconcile that this is speaking of YHWH and NOT YAHUshuah??? This is why I suggested reading ch. 42 along with 43 and Mishley 8...

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

...

If you have ever read Yesha`yahu, you recognize the above as a prophecy spoken of YAHUshuah... but continue reading to see what YHWH says further about HIS servant...

Here also is where you can go to Mishley 8 to see how scripture always backs up scripture...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

...

Just as YHWH says YAHUshuah was HIS "soul's" delight, YAHUshuah declares that He was YHWH's daily delight... reading Mishley 8 shows that YAHUshuah says this was when the foundations of ha eretz was formed...
it appears that the author has made the erroneous error of trying to tie Y'shu of:
Quote:Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
to this passage of scripture:
Quote:Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him
Examining more of the passage:
Quote:Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Pro 8:18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
Pro 8:19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
Pro 8:20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
Pro 8:21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him

...clearly shows Y'shu/Jesus is NOT this a factious character called Wisdom. Even more prononunced is the fact that Wisdom is refered to with feminine gender:
Quote:Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Pro 8:3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
Pro 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.

Pssst Pinocchio... All over the place??? Don't you know that scripture backs up and verifies scripture???

Have you never read these passage??? Corintyah Aleph 1:30... ROTFLMLBO...

"But of Him are you in MAShIACh YAHUshuah, who is FROM YHWH and has been made for us ChOChMAH, and TzEDAKAH, and SANCTIFICATION, and GEULAH."

I so enjoy the DBR YHWH... you will also when you LEARN it... I'll of course allow you to figure out the Ibriyt... LOL...

I ask now do YOU REALLY THINK YHWH has a gender??? YHWH IS RUACh son... and so was YAHUshuah BEFORE He came to ha eretz... smh...

One day you will learn whathell to RESEARCH, STUDY, LEARN then TEACH... you have it backwards trying to teach anyone anything... LOL...

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