"MarYah deception" ???

[Andrej]

Rafa, you may have had to address me, as Alex does not adhere to any particular understanding.

When will you understand that the Bible is above all traditions? Are you prepared to say that the apostles were heretics, as he was baptized in the name of Jesus only? Do you not know that when you use the name "Jesus", you adress all the fulness of the Godhead? How could you possibly put your traditions above the word of God?


Acts 2:38 - Then Simon said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you in the name of the LORD Jesus for the remission of sins, so that you may receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Don't forget, Peter was not alone doing this, the twelve stood with him and confirmed his words!


Or, are you ready to say that Peter is a heretic:
Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of our LORD Jesus Christ. And they urged him to remain with them a few days.

Or Philip?
Acts 8:12 - But when they believed Philip, preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God in the name of our LORD Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:16 - For as yet it had not come upon them although they had been baptized in the name of our Lord Jesus.

Or Paul?
Acts 19:3 - Then he said to them, By what baptism then were you baptized? They said, By the baptism of John.
Acts 19:4 - Then said Paul, John verily baptized the people with the baptism of repentance, saying unto them that they should believe on him who should come after him, that is, Jesus Christ.
(note that his theology does not allow for the formula you believe to be proper)
Acts 19:5 - When they heard these things, they were baptized in the name of our LORD Jesus Christ
Acts 19:6 - And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke in divers tongues, and prophesied.

Romans 6:3 - Do you not know, that those of us who have been baptized into Jesus Christ have been baptized into his death?
(again, his theology does not allow for the formula you believe to be proper)

Acts 4:12 - There is no salvation by any other man; for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
(neither does Peter's theology allow for the formula you believe to be proper)

Colossians 2:12 - And you were buried with him in baptism, and by him you were raised with him, for you believed in the power of God who raised him from the dead.
(theology again)

1Corinthians 1:13 - Why? Is Christ divided? or was Paul crucified for you? or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1Corinthians 1:15 - So no man can say that I have baptized in my own name.
(theology again)

Back to Matthew 28:19, consider this:
Colossians 2:9 - For in him is embodied all the fulness of the Godhead.
(that includes any part of the godhead.)
Also, consider there is scripture to support that the name of the Son is Jesus, the name of the Holy Spirit is Jesus, and the name of the Father is Jesus. Also, the NT clearly teaches that Jesus is the only name given for salvation. Jesus taught that we have to follow the Apostle's teachings.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are titles, not names. Jesus said to use the name, not the titles. Matthew 28:19 was a commandment to the apostles, they had the God-given right to interpret that command through the Holy Spirit, which they obviously did. Who are we to question them?
Even if you can get your mind to disregard scripture, can you really call me a heretic, following the apostle's example?

We are, in fact, "baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit", whereas you are "baptizing them in the titles of the father, son and holy spirit, saying "in the name" does not make it a name.