"MarYah deception" ???

[justalex]

Oh and before I forget, the face to face in the TOWRAH isn't as you and I would be face to face I don't think (even though that would be something) remind's me of the song "I can only imagine"... I used to try to imagine that as well and it just didn't fit... Yaa`cob also said he saw "god's" face in Bereshiyth 32:30 (He named the place "Penu`EL" literally "the face of EL") after he wrestled the "man" until dawn. I won't even try to expain whether or not he wrestled a man (like Abraham saw before Sedom) or what, my guess it was the same as the "man" wouldn't reveal His name.

Thanks, justalex