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before I begin
#8
Kara Wrote:Peace and blessings, Judge.
Thank you. Blessing to you too.

Quote:I will assume that I am untutored in the Syriac tradition.


OK
Quote:I will also assume that you have evidence that (a) the Syriac and Greek scribal traditions were fundamentally different

Well the peshitta is in Aramaic and then greek versions are in greek, The peshitta has been used exclusively by the COE and there is no evidence of them ever using anything greek in the early period you mention.
These facts seem to indicate a fundamental difference, dont you think?


Quote:(b) the Syriac Gospels existed before Tatian's Diatessaron, in their present form

Well the diatessaron is a condensing of the four gospels, so obviously the gospels came first.
IOW the evidence that is required is that the peshitta is prior to the greek versions, which is what this whole thing is about.


Quote:, until now © the Syriac Gospels were not creative translations of the Greek Gospels. By ©, I mean that the wordplays, puns, etc, as cited by Aramaic primacists, are not textual corruptions attempting to restore the original idiom lost in the Greek Gospels (which themselves could be a bad translation of the "original" Palestinian-Aramaic Gospels).

Well to turn this around the evidence on this site attempts to show that the greek is a translation of the peshitta.
Proving a negative, proving something is not the case, as you ask me to do here is generally considered a poor approach.
In other words one can never show that by some sheer fluke some COE monk didnt translate the greek and cleverly insert all manner of wordplay whilst keeping the same meaning. But really, what are the chances?
Do you have any evidence that this happened?

It's kind of like the dictum "innocent till proven guilty". What you are asking is like asking someone to show they didnt commit a murder. The correct approach is for the accuser, the one making the case, to provide evidence that it did happen.



Quote:I do appreciate your patience and consideration. Your response is most anticipated.
No problem :-)
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before I begin - by Kara - 02-22-2010, 09:51 PM
Re: before I begin - by Nimrod Warda - 02-22-2010, 10:56 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 02-25-2010, 01:26 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 02-25-2010, 03:12 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 02-25-2010, 07:40 PM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 02-26-2010, 12:40 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 02-26-2010, 01:26 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 02-26-2010, 12:26 PM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 02-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 02-26-2010, 06:05 PM
Re: before I begin - by Nimrod Warda - 02-26-2010, 07:03 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 02-26-2010, 07:55 PM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 02-26-2010, 08:59 PM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 02-26-2010, 09:05 PM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-04-2010, 09:43 PM
Re: before I begin - by ograabe - 03-05-2010, 03:42 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-05-2010, 03:46 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-05-2010, 04:02 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-05-2010, 04:47 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-06-2010, 01:05 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-08-2010, 07:34 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-09-2010, 06:03 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-10-2010, 01:09 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-10-2010, 02:08 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-10-2010, 05:23 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-10-2010, 07:24 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-10-2010, 07:44 AM
Re: before I begin - by Nimrod Warda - 03-10-2010, 02:09 PM
Re: before I begin - by Phil - 03-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-10-2010, 06:27 PM
Re: before I begin - by Nimrod Warda - 03-10-2010, 08:14 PM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-10-2010, 10:57 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-11-2010, 01:14 AM
Re: before I begin - by Stephen Silver - 03-11-2010, 01:57 AM
Re: before I begin - by judge - 03-11-2010, 03:52 AM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-11-2010, 04:40 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-11-2010, 05:45 AM
Re: before I begin - by Burning one - 03-11-2010, 06:07 AM
Re: before I begin - by Nimrod Warda - 03-11-2010, 03:35 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-11-2010, 05:28 PM
Re: before I begin - by Kara - 03-11-2010, 11:36 PM

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