10-21-2008, 11:30 PM
Shlama all,
I request information that would shed light into research concerning the tribes of Israel in Central Asia. In 2002 the Russian-German excavation team in Tuva (capital: Kyzyl, north of the western part of Mongolia) brought to light many golden items that have been clearly identified to be of Scythian origin. Here is some basic information on that excavation: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.fotuva.org/history/archaeology.html">http://www.fotuva.org/history/archaeology.html</a><!-- m -->
In order to galvanize materials or put a layer of gold onto other materials, an electric current is necessary. The Parthians had developed this method about 2000 years ago and the Scythians also knew this technology. This link helps to understand the findings: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/parthian_battery.php">http://www.iranchamber.com/history/arti ... attery.php</a><!-- m -->
The question is how did this technology find its way to such remote places as western Mongolia and Tuva? Why did the human remains in some graves of that period have had clearly Caucasian features like blonde hair and bearded men? They don't look Asian at all. Today, the Mongolians have a very wide gene pool - probably also due to all their conquest related past.
The best answer is, that these people came from the area east of the Caspian Sea from where the Scythians came, and they brought along the technology and skills to make beautiful golden ornaments, very similar to those found in Eastern and Central Europe, dated from the first centuries.
Today, many Christians of Mongolian, Tuvinian and related group's origin ask themselves how their relationship with Israel may be. They know not much about their origin as the culture of the Steppes has been mostly recorded and kept by other people groups surrounding them - like the Chinese, Persians, Jews, Arabs and others. Nomad or semi-nomad people usually have a very rich oral tradition that is passed on from generation to generation in form of tales, secret histories and rich folklore songs. Moving people have usually not the habit carrying libraries around...
Yet, there was the time of the Nestorians who brought Christianity to China, the Uighurs and later also to the tribes of Mongolian people. The Keraite Mongols of mixed Turkic and Mongolian origin adopted to the Christian faith when the Nestorians brought it to them around the 11th century. So did the Naiman and the Merkit Mongolian tribes. Yet, only 200 years later there was no more evidence that their faith had survived. Exposure to the Christian faith had come to halt and only in the early 1800-s, missionaries came and translated the Bible. All the older scripts, probably in Syriac, were lost in the sands of the Gobi or somewhere in the vast grasslands.
Only Nestorian crosses, found in the Gobi Desert are still witnesses from the period of the 11th & 12th centuries, when the faith in Yeshua blossomed before and during the Great Mongolian Empire. Even the mother of Kublai Khan, the ruler of their empire when it stretched from Korea and all China in the East, to Poland in the west all over Russia, India, parts of what is today Indonesia, and Iran, Iraq... the mother of this mighty ruler was of Nestorian Christian faith.
While there has been a lot of reasearch on the scattered tribes of the Northern kingdom of Israel on almost all their pathes to the west and north, hardly any research has shed light onto those who went east through the steppes of Central Asia.
Having seen the revival of the Mongolian church in northern China, Mongolia proper and Buryatia, yet even with the Tuvinians since 1984, one develops a heart with these people and understands their questions about their origin. In the short period from about the late 1980-ies, their Christian communities grew very fast. In these days they were exposed not only to sound doctrine, but to all the "don'ts" of heresies and lies, mistranslations, cults, etc. at high speed. During the past half century or more, their people groups had been exposed mainly to atheism and persecution of almost any religious ideas. Once the gates opened a bit, a big stream of new beliefs came upon them and thanks to the Ruach haKodesh, most survived. Yet, they have to come to terms with teachings as dispensationalism and such. Also, they have little teaching and insight into the prophetic issues that confront the whole world today in ever increasing fulfillments. Science, if honest, helps, especially if it is based on facts and is interpreted according to Scripture.
Concluding, I ask for help to shed light on the history of these Mongolian people groups and those they mingled with in terms of intelligible research results that will help the Mongolian and related groups to find evidence about their true heritage. I firmly believe that the Church of the East has valuable information on this topic, that is truthful and helpful like their bigger contribution to faith, the Peshitta. Thanks for your comments.
To have a look at the vertical Mongolian Bible (protions), go to: <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.mongolbible.com">www.mongolbible.com</a><!-- w -->
I request information that would shed light into research concerning the tribes of Israel in Central Asia. In 2002 the Russian-German excavation team in Tuva (capital: Kyzyl, north of the western part of Mongolia) brought to light many golden items that have been clearly identified to be of Scythian origin. Here is some basic information on that excavation: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.fotuva.org/history/archaeology.html">http://www.fotuva.org/history/archaeology.html</a><!-- m -->
In order to galvanize materials or put a layer of gold onto other materials, an electric current is necessary. The Parthians had developed this method about 2000 years ago and the Scythians also knew this technology. This link helps to understand the findings: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/parthian_battery.php">http://www.iranchamber.com/history/arti ... attery.php</a><!-- m -->
The question is how did this technology find its way to such remote places as western Mongolia and Tuva? Why did the human remains in some graves of that period have had clearly Caucasian features like blonde hair and bearded men? They don't look Asian at all. Today, the Mongolians have a very wide gene pool - probably also due to all their conquest related past.
The best answer is, that these people came from the area east of the Caspian Sea from where the Scythians came, and they brought along the technology and skills to make beautiful golden ornaments, very similar to those found in Eastern and Central Europe, dated from the first centuries.
Today, many Christians of Mongolian, Tuvinian and related group's origin ask themselves how their relationship with Israel may be. They know not much about their origin as the culture of the Steppes has been mostly recorded and kept by other people groups surrounding them - like the Chinese, Persians, Jews, Arabs and others. Nomad or semi-nomad people usually have a very rich oral tradition that is passed on from generation to generation in form of tales, secret histories and rich folklore songs. Moving people have usually not the habit carrying libraries around...
Yet, there was the time of the Nestorians who brought Christianity to China, the Uighurs and later also to the tribes of Mongolian people. The Keraite Mongols of mixed Turkic and Mongolian origin adopted to the Christian faith when the Nestorians brought it to them around the 11th century. So did the Naiman and the Merkit Mongolian tribes. Yet, only 200 years later there was no more evidence that their faith had survived. Exposure to the Christian faith had come to halt and only in the early 1800-s, missionaries came and translated the Bible. All the older scripts, probably in Syriac, were lost in the sands of the Gobi or somewhere in the vast grasslands.
Only Nestorian crosses, found in the Gobi Desert are still witnesses from the period of the 11th & 12th centuries, when the faith in Yeshua blossomed before and during the Great Mongolian Empire. Even the mother of Kublai Khan, the ruler of their empire when it stretched from Korea and all China in the East, to Poland in the west all over Russia, India, parts of what is today Indonesia, and Iran, Iraq... the mother of this mighty ruler was of Nestorian Christian faith.
While there has been a lot of reasearch on the scattered tribes of the Northern kingdom of Israel on almost all their pathes to the west and north, hardly any research has shed light onto those who went east through the steppes of Central Asia.
Having seen the revival of the Mongolian church in northern China, Mongolia proper and Buryatia, yet even with the Tuvinians since 1984, one develops a heart with these people and understands their questions about their origin. In the short period from about the late 1980-ies, their Christian communities grew very fast. In these days they were exposed not only to sound doctrine, but to all the "don'ts" of heresies and lies, mistranslations, cults, etc. at high speed. During the past half century or more, their people groups had been exposed mainly to atheism and persecution of almost any religious ideas. Once the gates opened a bit, a big stream of new beliefs came upon them and thanks to the Ruach haKodesh, most survived. Yet, they have to come to terms with teachings as dispensationalism and such. Also, they have little teaching and insight into the prophetic issues that confront the whole world today in ever increasing fulfillments. Science, if honest, helps, especially if it is based on facts and is interpreted according to Scripture.
Concluding, I ask for help to shed light on the history of these Mongolian people groups and those they mingled with in terms of intelligible research results that will help the Mongolian and related groups to find evidence about their true heritage. I firmly believe that the Church of the East has valuable information on this topic, that is truthful and helpful like their bigger contribution to faith, the Peshitta. Thanks for your comments.
To have a look at the vertical Mongolian Bible (protions), go to: <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.mongolbible.com">www.mongolbible.com</a><!-- w -->
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