Stoning to death

[*Albion*]

You know Christina, I know that the Muslims can be very hospitable, and make one feel like almost "a part of the tribe", when one is their guest.

But THEIR HATRED OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS will NEVER end!

Consequently, I'll NEVER TRUST THEM!

Shlama, Albion

[Christina]

You know Christina, I know that the Muslims can be very hospitable, and make one feel like almost "a part of the tribe", when one is their guest.

But THEIR HATRED OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS will NEVER end!

Consequently, I'll NEVER TRUST THEM!

Shlama, Albion

And of course thanks to the doctrine of "taqiya" we can never know when they're telling the truth.

Love them: yes,

Pray for them: yes,

Share the Gospel with them: yes,

Trust them: NO!!!

[Dawid]

You know Christina, I know that the Muslims can be very hospitable, and make one feel like almost "a part of the tribe", when one is their guest.

But THEIR HATRED OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS will NEVER end!

Consequently, I'll NEVER TRUST THEM!

Shlama, Albion

And of course thanks to the doctrine of "taqiya" we can never know when they're telling the truth.

Love them: yes,

Pray for them: yes,

Share the Gospel with them: yes,

Trust them: NO!!!

For me, it depends on the Muslim. There are some that I know I can trust absolutely. And some I wouldn't trust with my dog.

[The Orthodox Jew]

I've been reading the books of Moses, and there are a great deal of sins that call for stoning a person to death. Being Torah observant, is there any sin in modern times that calls for capital punishment? And what do non-Messianic Jews believe regarding stoning, since they claim to be the only true Torah-observant Jews?

Jewish law has such strict requirements of witnesses that it was virtually impossible to enact the death penalty.
There had to be two male witnesses who warned the perpetrator ahead of time that the act warranted the death
penalty, he had to agree he understood this and that he was going to commit the offense anyway, and the
two witnesses must observe the crime being committed. The perpetrator's own testimony or confession was
not allowable.

On top of that, only the Sanhedrin could enact the death penalty after the trial. Since we have no Sanhedrin, there
is no way currently to enact the death penalty, no matter what the sin.

[The Orthodox Jew]

It reminds me of Mosaic law in the sense that it's eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

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This law has always referred to monetary compensation, not physical revenge.

[Dawid]

It reminds me of Mosaic law in the sense that it's eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

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This law has always referred to monetary compensation, not physical revenge.

Not to mention that the classic interpretation is that this was putting a limit on revenge. i.e. you could only punish them in a way that was comparable to the crime. You couldn't kill someone for knocking out your tooth.

[The Orthodox Jew]

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Not to mention that the classic interpretation is that this was putting a limit on revenge. i.e. you could only punish them in a way that was comparable to the crime. You couldn't kill someone for knocking out your tooth.

That is a side benefit, but the main thrust has always been economic compensation.

[Dawid]

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Not to mention that the classic interpretation is that this was putting a limit on revenge. i.e. you could only punish them in a way that was comparable to the crime. You couldn't kill someone for knocking out your tooth.

That is a side benefit, but the main thrust has always been economic compensation.

From a historical perspective, I would beg to differ with this. It seems to me that it most likely meant what it said at the time.

[Havah]

I think...

Capital punishment is still valid.
But Mshikha died on the cross for all our sins. His death have replaced the penalty(stoning).