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Who is Rev. David Bauscher?
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Shlama:
Even if I Corinthians 1: is interpreted as "tongues of men and of angels" it still doesn't mean that angelic tongues are unintelligible. An angel spoke in Aramaic to Zacharias, (Luke 1:12-20)Gabriel spoke in Aramaic to Miryam. (Luke 1:26-38) Again the shepherds saw and heard the angels praising Alaha. (Luke 2:8:14) In fact there is no place in the entire Bible where any angel spoke in an unintelligible language. Perhaps it is an idiom to say, "tongues of angels". Is it the equivalence of "angelic conversation"? What about Stephen the martyr's discourse? (Acts 6:15)

"And all who sat in the council, looking steadfastly at him, saw his face as the face of an angel."

Paul should know this about Stephen because he was there when he was martyred. Perhaps, in I Corinthians 13:1, Paul is recalling the angelic behaviour of Stephen the disciple. It's an assumption to use this passage to reinforce dogmatic notions of unintelligible angelic tongues. How can this be edifying? If I recite to myself a Psalm in Hebrew, I am edified if I do a word study. I can do that privately and be personally edified.
I practiced glossolalia for many years believing that this was evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I now understand that I have had the Holy Spirit baptism ever since I received our LORD and Saviour Yeshua Meshikha. There is no salvation of the soul without the Holy Spirit to guide us into All Truth. (John 16:13) Therefore, the baptism of the Holy Spirit is not a "second blessing" apart from the work of regeneration. The WORD of Alaha in written form (II Timothy 3:15-16) is precisely affirmed by the Living Word of Alaha (Hebrews 4:12) and this in turn is the Life of our Saviour Yeshua Meshikha and His very words. (Matthew 5:17-18)

"The WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us...." (John 1:14)

There is no ambiguity in the Hebrew and Aramaic texts. However, the Protestant Reformation solidly embraced and established the Greek New Testament (textus receptus) from the time of Luther, and this is the main reason that there are so many divisions amongst the mainstream Christian denominations and their various branchings. Erasmus and Luther were contemporaries. The Reformers rejected the Latin Vulgate and averaged the Greek texts to create the textus receptus.
In deed glossolalia is a relatively recent denominational phenomenon. The Wesleyan Holiness Movement united several branches in the early 20th Century, till the Azuza Street revival and the advent of glossolalia. This practice split the Pentecostal Church of the Nazarene in 1919. Baptists were on a parallel path with the Wesleyan Holiness movement after the split between John Wesley (Arminian) and George Whitefield (Calvinist). These divisions including that over glossolalia are all because of the ambiguous readings from the Greek New Testament. Aramaic Primacy is not a "cure all". Between Lamsa and Bauscher there are many, many disagreements. Moreover, when a single dogma such as glossolalia can be the cause of so much internal strife and division in the Body of Meshikha, m'thinks we need to reevaluate the doctrine of the Holy Spirit and not respond with knee-jerks to Aramaic Primacy simply because it uncovers dogmatic follies and misrepresentations of the Greek textual traditions.

Shlama,
Stephen
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