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Who is Rev. David Bauscher?
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Quote:=Thirdwoe"]Not.

If you look closer here, these Tongues are not known human languages at all that is being talk about here.... As the Apostle Paul said...Tongues of Men and of Angels.

OK, if you want to believe that I Corinthians 13:1 reads "tongues of men and of angels" that's fine with me. I won't oppose you but we will have to agree to disagree.

Quote:The Scripture clearly says that there are various types of Spiritually gifted Tongues.

Recitation please. Are you referring to I Corinthians 14:2? Read also 14:10. If there is a dual meaning or an apparent contradiction, I think it's imperative to take the plain reading of the text. This avoids confusion.

Quote:The Tongues here refer to Spiritually gifted languages or words given to a person for there own personal edification.

That's the same concept as a mantra. Yeshua cautioned against vain repetitions. (Matthew 6:7)

Quote:Look at the verse that says that NO man understands them, and that the person's own understanding is Unfruitful regarding them.

This could simply be referring to a visitor who blurts out an edification in his mother tongue without an interpreter. If the congregation doesn't understand the language they can't respond intelligently.

Quote:These Tongues are for the individual???s OWN edification, not the rest of the Congregation.... And this is why the Apostle Paul says that in a group setting (in Church) he does not use his personal edifying gift, because his focus is on the edification of others around him in a group setting.

That's precisely what is taught in the Pentecostal church. If you want to follow their lead feel free. Again, the use of mantras, or unintelligible syllabications (glossolalia) is not what the apostle Paul was teaching. This can be easily understood in the plain reading. What Paul is saying in I Corinthians 14:4 is this, don't try to edify the congregation in a language that they don't understand. If I recite a Psalm in Hebrew to a church group that doesn't understand Hebrew, how are they edified. If I truly love them I will translate the Psalm into their mother tongue so they can read it for themselves and be edified.
I think that beyond the isogetic understanding of I Corinthians 12-14 is the mandate to go into all the world and preach the Gospel to everyone in their own mother tongue and translate the scriptures for them, both the T"NK as well as the Peshitta New Testament. That is precisely what Paul was teaching and that is history, my dear friend.

Quote:He says that though he uses his personal edifying gift of Tongues in his personal prayer life more than anyone else, he chooses rather to keep that between him and God in a group setting...

The apostle Paul spoke Hebrew and Aramaic and "who knows what else". He was studied and articulate. The Corinthian church was not fluent in the Hebrew scriptures. From his youth, Paul recited the Hebrew scriptures, but his recitations would be unfruitful in the Corinthian church if there was no interpreter, so Paul kept his recitations to himself till the opportune time when these passages were interpreted. It's not like there were Bibles behind every pew. The scriptures were read. It was the only way for one to hear the Word of God. How can one be edified if one cannot understand what is being recited either by reading or by memory. Interpretation was absolutely necessary. Paul was an extraordinary linguist. he made plain the concepts of salvation for all that heard him. His epistles didn't just happen to appear out of the blue. He received instruction from the Spirit of Alaha when he wrote to each congregation. These epistles took time to be interpreted in writing.

Quote:If this counsel were headed [sic.] today, there would be little confusion.

I'll post the references if needed.

I think you should always post references. As you can see, I post references as I write so you don't have to. It takes time to source references.

Shlama,
Stephen
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Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Spyridon - 09-15-2008, 10:13 PM
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