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Who is Rev. David Bauscher?
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Shlama all--

Not sure what to say here, but I think I need to interject a little. I would have certainly preferred to have had David Bauscher's understanding (even in agree to disagree mode) than his protracted absence which does not benefit anybody. I certainly have not nor will not shrink from defending myself when necessary, but that doesn't mean I stand on ceremony and remain angry until some apology manifests. I am content to make my point, give my "opponent" something to think about that they may or may not correct later, and in the meantime live my life. We cannot endure life waiting for apologies from all who wronged us or whom we perceived wronged us. That is why Y'shua said we need to love our adversaries and pray for those who abuse us, not for their sake, but for ours. Without forgiveness there is no repentance and without repentance there is no progress.

But I guess I digress a bit. In a sense, I want to in a way come to Bauscher's aid here. Whatever controversies may arise from his codes work or theological bent, the burden of translating holy text is an excruciating responsibility that can tax the strongest of people. No one, other than another translator, can understand the burden with respect to trying to deliver YHWH's Word into a language that did not exist for many centuries prior to it originally being given. How do you deliver as many as ten discrete meanings of an Aramaic word or navigate the endlessly complicated morphologies and combinations? Then, how do you speak it back in a way that won't excite some problem with somebody no matter what you say?

The answer, or part of it at least, is to do this for many, many years and to live, speak, breathe and sleep the text. That's what Lamsa did, for better or for worse. Same with Murdock, Etheridge and our own Paul Younan. It is, quite honestly, impossible to not translate something in a way that someone else won't have a problem with down the road. Christianity has 30,000 denominations and the problems on the Nazarene side are also evident. We will not solve those divisions with a single work or overnight no matter who does it, but we are commanded to try to move forward in some kind of unity, so the work is never done. Is Messiah divided? Was Rav Shaul crucified for you???

I don't know if Bauscher really has the animosity towards me or not that seemed to come out, and frankly, I don't care either. But I will say that I understand the challenge he has labored under better than many others because I have done the exact same thing. We filter things through our experience and understandings in this process, so some influence be it Nazarene or Protestant, may be inevitable. But it also helps to go over the text hundreds of times and try to root out as much of that as you can as well. The problem is, no translator knows how successful he or she has been at doing this most important thing. Only history and the well regarded opinions of others can do that.

On the other hand, the other way to deal with "agenda issues" is to be proactive and admit them. I make no bones about the fact that Mari was developed not just as an interlinear translation but with appendices and other stuff to represent the Nazarene perspective. I tell my readers what I believe and why, so that when they see a line in Galatians that bothers them they go "See, Andrew told me why he did that". They may not agree with me, but I think most will at least appreciate my honesty. There is also a concerted effort--and the success of it is in the eyes of the beholders and not me--to keep a certain level of "speculation" out of the base text and even out of the footnotes, but to explore things in greater detail in the appendices. Is it too much or not enough? I have no idea. Only you folks can tell me if I have done right.

To my mind the problem is NOT that I have done this but that so many other translations haven't. They put forth this "word for word objective myth" that is nice for a goal but they proclaim it as hard fact and physics. Linguistics, especially from an ancient tradition, simply doesn't work that way. It is hard, painstaking, meticulous and straining work, and the timid should not attempt it. We are talking about something that will keep you up through half the night for YEARS at a time, and that's the price we pay, Bauscher and I.

As I tried to say to Bauscher once I will say to all of you once more: My job, and Mari's, is not to convert anyone from their faith. Rather, my job is to expalin MY FAITH, and from there leave the Ruach haKodesh to the rest of the work. But if Mari read like KJV, NIV, NASB and the rest, there would be no reason for me to expend the effort to create it.

Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth
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Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Spyridon - 09-15-2008, 10:13 PM
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