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Who is Rev. David Bauscher?
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Shlama all,

I wouldn't say that Bauscher's translation is "different" as in wrong - it just sounds different to the ears. But actually, if you follow closely line by line, you can see that Dave's translation is still the same. I think he was a faithful translator - as to whether he gave the best rendition known to mankind or not, I think is a matter left to both linguistic specialists and to the reader's ear. But to say "kinds of languages" instead of "kinds of tongues", and "translation of languages" instead of "the interpretation of tongues" is not fallacious. To the cessationist, "tongues" could be theologically argued against, while to the non-cessationist "languages" could be theologically argued against; but I think to the linguist neither rendition is wrong, and in fact both can be correct. I think it really boils down to preference of the respective translator.

Thanks a million again, Christina, for doing the hard work of typing both translations out. I actually wouldn't mind a translation itself that looked like that (Dave B. / Magiera, line-for-line). Or for that matter, one with Lamsa, Etheridge, and Murdock line-for-line, or side-by-side.

And don't get me wrong, "languages" and especially "translation of languages" as opposed to "interpretation" is strange and hard on my ears as well. But a translator can find certain flexibilities without being a poor, wrong, or for that matter unfaithful, translator. If I felt otherwise about Dave B.'s translations, then I wouldn't have written a review for his books at Amazon. Be that as it may, I already know that I'm not going to agree with him on everything theologically, and that his particular theology, whatever it may be, is going to crop up in his translational work there and again. I don't know that he's a cessationist - in fact, I do know that he does believe in the operation of prophecy today, from personal correspondance, so if that makes him less than a "full preterist", then I don't know what kind of preterist he is, exactly. But taking his work line-for-line against Magiera's does not to my eyes (ears are a different story) give a radically different rendering - lexically they're compatible.

Albeit, I am curious about 1 Cor. 14:31:

For you can all prophesy one by one, that each person may teach and everyone may be comforted.
For all of you can prophesy one by one, so that everyone may learn and everyone may be comforted.

This is why some have said before, that each translation should be in a believer's library. To each one, their own preference. But the Aramaic language, like Hebrew, is not static, so variations are to expected - even between Andrew Gabriel Roth's and Paul Younan's. If I sincerely felt that Dave B. had a sinister agenda and was out to purposely pervert the Text, or warp It without conscience as Lamsa did in certain places, then I'd write a different story here. But I don't believe that universalists, preterists, calvinists, or premillenialists are automatically barred from the task of translating. History's men who've given the Text-received, have been quite the eclectic bunch, for sure! Refer not only to Dave B.'s NT in Plain English, but also to his Interlinear, and you'll see what a genuine, Godly passion for the Scripture he possesses. This is one reason why I chose to compare him against Bart Ehrman in my Amazon review. BIG difference in motive! I never promised anyone that Dave was going to translate the Aramaic into English that everybody would agree upon. Only that he was, and is, a faithful translator. I think credit needs to be given where credit is due. Preferences are an entirely different critter.

Blessings,

Ryan
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Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Spyridon - 09-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Thirdwoe - 09-15-2008, 10:54 PM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Spyridon - 09-16-2008, 12:07 AM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Thirdwoe - 09-16-2008, 03:02 AM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Spyridon - 09-16-2008, 05:23 AM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Christina - 09-16-2008, 08:28 AM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Christina - 09-16-2008, 06:11 PM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Christina - 09-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Amatsyah - 09-16-2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Christina - 09-16-2008, 08:14 PM
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Re: Who is Rev. David Bauscher? - by Paul Younan - 09-16-2008, 10:37 PM
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