10-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Shlama Akhi Spyridon,
I wanted to alert you to the fact that the above translation from the tertullian.org website is incorrect, and mistranslates the original Aramaic "Qnuma" as "Person" - here is a better English translation:
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Remember that Qnoma is never equal to Person. It is better left untranslated, as above.
Akhi Andrew - we need to talk on the phone about a couple of points regarding Qnoma - I'll give you a buzz later today before Sabbath.
+Shamasha
Spyridon Wrote:The mystery of the Trinity is expressed in the words of the Old Testament: "Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness; "the occurrence of the letter noon three times in this sentence is an indication of the Trinity. The "Holy" thrice repeated in the seraphic hymn, as mentioned by Isaiah, joined with one "Lord," attests Three Persons in One Essence. The words of David, also, are of the same import: "By the Word of the Lord were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth;" and many other like references. Let the heathen, then, and Jews who rail at the truth of the Catholic Church, on account of her faith in the Trinity, be confounded and put to shame. Here endeth the first part.
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I wanted to alert you to the fact that the above translation from the tertullian.org website is incorrect, and mistranslates the original Aramaic "Qnuma" as "Person" - here is a better English translation:
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Quote:Therefore these three properties are consubstantial and are on this account called (Qnume) hypostasis or substance and not accidental powers, nor do they cause change in the nature of the consubstantial nor plurality; for He is the Mind, the Same He is the Wisdom, the Same He is the Life, Who ever begat without cessation, and puts forth (makes to proceed) without removal from Himself. These things (cessation removal) are infinitely removed from Him for there is no real likeness between created natures and the Nature of the eternally existing and a simile does not in everything resemble that which is compared by it; for then the simile and that which is compared by it would be the thing itself, and we (who have just instituted several comparisons) would not be unlike the man who attempts to compare a thing by the self-same thing. The mystery of the Trinity is expressed in the words of the Old Testament: ???Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness;??? the occurrence of the letter noon[9]three times in this sentence is an indication of the Trinity. The ???Holy??? thrice repeated in the seraphic hymn, as mentioned by Isaiah, joined with one ???Lord ???, attests Three Qnume in One nature. The words of David, also, are of ???the same import: ???By the Word of the Lord were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth;??? and many other like references. Let the heathen, then, and Jews who rail at the truth of the Catholic Church, on account of her faith in the Trinity, be confounded and put to shame. Here endeth the first part.
Remember that Qnoma is never equal to Person. It is better left untranslated, as above.
Akhi Andrew - we need to talk on the phone about a couple of points regarding Qnoma - I'll give you a buzz later today before Sabbath.
+Shamasha