09-19-2008, 03:32 AM
Shlama Akhi Raphael,
Akhan Stephen presents some very sound exegesis generally bit Thirdwoe is also correct by raising the Job quotes because I also think that we inherited this breath from Adam who got it from YHWH. That last point might be my only divergence in Stephen's otherwise excellent argument. And we Nazarenes most certainly want to be careful when talking about inheriting stuff from Adam generally. I agree though with everything else Stephen said, including that of (general) judgment and the eternal nature of the human soul vs the animal soul.
Also wanted to respond to one other thing. You have mentioned a few times that it will be "hard" for me to teach Christianity this or that. But you see Christianity is not some monolithic thing. Some will agree, others not, and either is fine. I am not really evangelistic in "conversion" stuff but I do passionately argue for my viewpoint.
What I very much want to do though is to get Jews and Christians of all kinds excited about Scripture at pshat level, in the original Semitic framework if possible but settling for general Biblical literalism in their vernacular if necessary. I stand "orthodox"-- one of my favorite Greek words, "straight way" it means, klind of like "peshitta" no? I want to kick moral relativism and secular deconstructionism of Holy Writ to the ashcan of history, and if those who do these things with me remain Catholic, Protestant or whatever, hey that's a good day for me still. We will see about the rest down the road.
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth
Akhan Stephen presents some very sound exegesis generally bit Thirdwoe is also correct by raising the Job quotes because I also think that we inherited this breath from Adam who got it from YHWH. That last point might be my only divergence in Stephen's otherwise excellent argument. And we Nazarenes most certainly want to be careful when talking about inheriting stuff from Adam generally. I agree though with everything else Stephen said, including that of (general) judgment and the eternal nature of the human soul vs the animal soul.
Also wanted to respond to one other thing. You have mentioned a few times that it will be "hard" for me to teach Christianity this or that. But you see Christianity is not some monolithic thing. Some will agree, others not, and either is fine. I am not really evangelistic in "conversion" stuff but I do passionately argue for my viewpoint.
What I very much want to do though is to get Jews and Christians of all kinds excited about Scripture at pshat level, in the original Semitic framework if possible but settling for general Biblical literalism in their vernacular if necessary. I stand "orthodox"-- one of my favorite Greek words, "straight way" it means, klind of like "peshitta" no? I want to kick moral relativism and secular deconstructionism of Holy Writ to the ashcan of history, and if those who do these things with me remain Catholic, Protestant or whatever, hey that's a good day for me still. We will see about the rest down the road.
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth