Revelation Good case for Aramaic Primacy?? Come on now

[Paul Younan]

Shlama all--

I should point out that if we are to view with suspicion works that quote from pagan, extra-scriptural or other questionable sources not today canonized in any tradition, we would be throwing out a lot more than just Jude. 1 Corinthians and Titus quote from Greek poets like Menander and Epimenides for example, and these are far from isolated instances in Rav Shaul's writings. Rav Shaul clearly said he became a Jew to witness to Israel and a Roman to witness to Gentiles. He therefore used whatever he needed to get across a point to a given group of people, at least to meet them where they were in their walk, and then take them to where they needed to be. I could even point to allusions from the Zohar, Philo and the Dead Sea Scrolls (under the Torah, works of the Torah) if need be.

So Jude quotes from the Assumption of Moses and Enoch--not a problem if we apply equal weights and measures to all the NT.

Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth

Shlama Akhi Andrew,

But the Apostle Paul, when quoting from Greek philosophists, was not putting words in the mouth of God. The quote from Jude is validating the account in the book of Enoch regarding the supposed prophetic utterance.

Now notice the wording of 1 Enoch 1:9:

And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

How about Jude's reliance on the "Assumption of Moses."

Paul quoting popular modern writers on non-biblical issues is not quite on the same level.

+Shamasha