08-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Mike Kar Wrote:BTW, I am no longer Greek or Eastern Orthodox. But I have much to thank them for. When I became transormed by Y'shua I ridiculed the "faith" I was brought up in. But looking hindsight, how foolish of me to do this. The Greek Orthodox church gave me a foundation in life that once I was presented the gospel I had no intellectual hang ups. The foundation was there but Messiah was not a reality to me. I mean, you know the passage in 2 Cor where it says that we once regarded Christ in the flesh but now we no longer do. Plus the fact that Orthodox has been around for a very, very long time. They, throughout the last 20 centuries or so have suffered much, like the c.o.e. as I have now learned, and yet they are still around and practising the faith as they see it. Yes, Aloha has brought this to my mind and I dare not ridicule them again. Like I said , I was foolish but I have repented. We still have some very real dissagreements.
Oooh, a fellow ex-Greek Orthodox Christian turned Messianic/Nazarene, I thought I'd be the only one. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->
Mike & Paul:
I think we need to take a different approach here, I think the issues need to be dealt with separately, Mike asked:
Revelation Good case for Aramaic Primacy?? Come on now
Akhi Paul, let's forget that Revelation is not part of the CoE cannon for a minute and look at it from a linguistic/textual critical angle. IYO do you see similarities between Greek revelation & the 22 Greek books that you KNOW are translated from Aramaic? Is there evidence in Greek Revelation of split words, mistranslations, Aramaic idioms, etc? IOW Is there reason to question the assumption that the original language of Revelation is Greek?
I know that you're not bothered with the W5 Paul, but will you consider trying to answer this from a linguistic/textual critical perspective? Perhaps that's what Mike is actually looking for. However you're under no obligation to undertake this if you really don't want to deal with the W5. In that case Mike, there are others here who can help you, so don't go away just yet.
Also remember what Doug said earlier about the difference between "Peshitta Primacy" and "Aramaic Primacy". Akhan Paul is a "Peshitta Primacist" not an "Aramaic Primacist" (according to Doug's definition), so your question about Revelation & the rest of the W5 concerns "Aramaic Primacy" not "Peshitta Primacy".
Shlama ke xeretismata,
Christina.